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maryellenNovember 3, 2022 at 5:55 PM
ReplyDeleteStill no word from Aldridge, B.
Can we now assume that he
Has departed Ambridge life,
Following his Ambridge wife
Into silence week on week?
The answer mayn’t be far to seek.
Retirement beckoned to the pair,
And finally they’ve gone off air.
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MiriamNovember 3, 2022 at 6:11 PM
I am far more concerned about the missing Jennifer and the very few inputs from Jill.
How long is it since Jennifer was actually to speak?
ReplyDeleteSarniaNovember 3, 2022 at 6:13 PM
If the actress has left the programme I'm afraid you're in for a long wait, Miriam.
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MiriamNovember 3, 2022 at 6:19 PM
Brian/aka Charles, is probably having a sabatical along with his, now retired wife and so are enjoying time together, at last. I read that due to their schedules in TA they were never recording at the same time, so passed each other going back + forwards to recording sessions.
If Brian/Charles decides to also retire, then others can step into his shoes.
It's normal life, and it also is happening in TA.
I would so like to hear so much from Stella and Hannah, as they step up into more managerial roles.
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Lady RNovember 3, 2022 at 9:13 PM
Very good maryellen 👏🏻
Miriam I echo your thoughts regarding “Jennifer” had the actor retired as she is now the second longest serving cast member I’m sure it would have been mentioned as with “Shula” I wonder (but hope not) if she maybe I’ll - having treatment and does not want it to be generally known. Nothing to be found on the net anyway 😞
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maryellenNovember 4, 2022 at 7:30 AM
'Twas Jennifer of whom I wrote.
Nothing has she said of note
For months and months. So I fear
Her radio demise is near.
Let's hope it was the actor's choice
To deprive us of her voice,
Compelled perhaps by cruel Fate
Whisp'ring don't leave it too late.
What soapy end is being planned?
Will she and Bri walk hand in hand
Into the sunset's rosy glow?
How long before we get to know?
(Product of a sleepless night!)
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MiriamNovember 3, 2022 at 6:30 PM
I rather feel that Vince will try to rescind his loan agreements, for the monies he "lent" to Brookfield, for the loo's/kitchen and updates etc done in the barn for Steph's wedding, plus the solar panels, as a result of the Ben/Beth situation.
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Lady RNovember 3, 2022 at 9:04 PM
Ooh yes I’d forgotten about that Miriam…..
Lady RNovember 3, 2022 at 9:03 PM
ReplyDeleteAt least last night and tonight’s episodes featured (apart from Ben) totally individual and recognisable voices - what a joy!
Not the yearly Christmas Show debacle again 😡 and why in Ambridge do they do everything village wise at the last minute, no show, no cast, costumes or scenery under way with barely six weeks to go! Not that Beth or Vince will be around to see it even if one materialises as they will be in New Zealand I predict 🫢
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Cheshire CheeseNovember 3, 2022 at 9:58 PM
Agree Lady R, highly improbable to put something together in that time frame especially when people are so busy at this time of year.
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BasiaNovember 4, 2022 at 10:36 AM
One Christmas John and Helen asked Peggy for money rather than presents and bought their parents a tea maker because they were always arguing (though not about tea making specifically) and Pat and Tony questioned themselves as to why they saw them like that.
If Tony'd had a guitar Lilian'd have remembered and since his message didn't get through then he didn't, so she can go and buy him one.
I wonder who will confront Vince, I know who I'd like it to be but who knows.
AmbridgesMrsPNovember 4, 2022 at 10:44 AM
ReplyDeleteThe actress who plays Usha on Woman’s Hour today, talking about her one woman show.
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BasiaNovember 4, 2022 at 11:25 AM
Souad Faress plays Usha, does Sudha Bhuchar sound like her?
Got it, Sudha was the original Usha, who didn't know about the Archers when first offered the role, I remember her looking quite different from the current one, so we are both right.
DeleteSorry BASIA
DeleteI heard Anita Rani announce her as having been Usha in TA. Didn’t listen to the interview but could hear the voices, and no, she didn’t sound like Souad Faress, so I was a bit puzzled too, but I had already posted.
Chelsea and the editor on Feedback later.
ReplyDeleteListened to that Feedback interview. The Editor insisted the abortion story was not issue-led but included just because it was ‘a good story’. Didn’t gain much information really though it was interesting to hear ‘Chelsea’ speaking in her normal voice and saying she and all her friends had listened to The Archers regularly while at University and was thrilled that she had actually got a part in the drama.
ReplyDeleteDidn’t she sound different? A really good actor to keep up that Chelsea accent!
ReplyDeleteYes, I was interested to hear what the actress sounds like because as Chelsea she seems to be sniffling half the time. I also agree with Freddie about the useless gift bags.
ReplyDeleteAlso nice that she said her gran was an avid listener and she was thrilled for her granddaughter.
DeleteHer gran could be one of us !
Re Basia's comment - why didn't Tracy get Chelsea's adenoids seen to earlier?
DeleteTonsils aren't routinely removed these days. I suspect adenoids are the same.
DeleteBesides, Tracey has had enough on her plate to worry too much about a perma-sniffing daughter. That said, I've never noticed Chelsea's sniff. Perhaps I should listen more carefully, and go and check I haven't missed any adenoidal tendencis amongst the younger shoe dwellers while I'm at it : )
Well, could be her sinuses, anyway definitely an ENT problem. I suspect Chelsea had long-standing glue ear when at school, either untreated or unresponsive to treatment, and that’s why she thinks of herself as (literally) thick.
DeleteSo….. as suggested Vince is taking his ball home with him.
ReplyDeleteSo much for his ‘genuine’ apologies to Elizabeth.
She won’t like his latest move.
Did David and Ruth not read the contract before the panels were installed? With something as expensive as that, t was a triffle risky to skim the small print!
DeleteThey trusted Vince?!
DeleteNo doubt 5 million listeners saw that coming! It was obvious at the time that Vince's 'goodwill gesture' was a way of storing up ammunition to use against Brookfield at a possible future date. David should have trusted his instincts (as well as reading the small print! ) and not been swayed by the apparent harmony engendered by Ban and Beth's romantic attachment.
DeleteChanging subject, I'm not entirely happy about Leonard offering to act as a go-between between Jill and her family, and then speaking for her . I hope he's not becoming possessive of her and they end up only able to communicate with her through him.....
On second thoughts, I might be over-anxious there...it could have been a neat way of involving the character without involving the actor. Perhaps they need to home record 'Jill' which presumably means more work for the tekkies. I guess we'll be getting more reported reactions from Peggy. Jill etc. Christine has vanished without trace!
DeleteI have never been able to understand why you have never taken to Leonard.
DeleteSince he first appeared you have often criticised him and the possible motives for his friendship with Jill
As far as I can see he has been good for Jill, taken her out and about, given her an interest outside her rather claustrophobic family where she seemed to do far too much for a woman of her age. She obviously trusts him and the rest of the family appreciate him and his help too.
He is a man of good sense and has often offered good advice to both family and other villagers
As you say, Paddy Greene may have to be recorded from home now (as was Peggy) so the device of Leonard ‘speaking’ for her is a sensible one and keeps Jill ‘alive’ without her actually having to speak!
Archerphile - you have totted up the advantages to Jill/Brookfield; could you now tot up the advantages to Leonard, please? (Culminating in the free bed+board he's now getting!)
DeleteI refuse to have an opinion of Leonard. I had a good one of Mr Moss and we all know how that turned out ...
DeleteAs for Christine, she has decamped to Grey Gables and is currently residing in the sound-proofed quarters where Kathy was required to remain for so long.
Leonard is fine but such a goody, he decorated Brookfield and (moved in by stealth?), went to see Ben and told Jill about the affair.
ReplyDeleteListening to Chelsea and Ben, perhaps they could get together, she told him to get on with it. She's very pragmatic, like with Vince's useless apology, yeah, all right, I've got things to do. Freddie was really out of his depth, what? abortion? Ben?! I just hope that together they stop Mia in time, oh and I hope Chelsea improves her delivery.
As for the manic butcher from Manila he told Elizabeth he'd ring David, but turned up announced and asked for his toys back. That Casey lot are all very precious and there's a third daughter too.
I was pondering last night the purpose of the Casey Clan becoming attached to Ambridge in the first place considering their connection so far.
DeleteIt seems too late now to be wondering how long they might be around since they are now well entrenched.
I think someone suggested ( Miriam perhaps ? ) that he/they were the equivalent of Matt Crawford and I can see that possibility.
As well their appearance follows a very long tradition of outsiders coming into Ambridge and upsetting the Apple cart.
Since my loyalty to TA is constant by listening to the drivel along with the good and never needing to ask other loyal listeners to update me on what’s afoot, I suppose I shall continue to ponder.
Perhaps until there is some big reveal !
BASIA
I am so pleased that you are still with us.
MrsP ;) - going back to Usha, I really like her voice and like Shula she's another one who sounds incredibly young, the actress being in her mid-seventies.
DeleteGoing back to the Apple cart (wish there were more of them, especially it being the apple season): there was Tim who came from nowhere and likewise disappeared, having caused mayhem. The same goes for the "horse traders" - mentioned by Owias.
DeleteI disagree though that the Caseys are well entrenched: Vince wants his money back, Beth has been let down by Ben twice, though she should have trusted him more, as for Steph: "he doesn't buy me things anymore", she was a caricature, just like Vince's mother.
I think they are on the wane.
I hope they are on the way out.
Answering Maryellen’s question about what Leonard has got out of his friendship with Jill:
ReplyDeleteBasically, the same advantages as Jill viz. a new friendship in old age ( both were widow/ers); someone to accompany him on visits to interesting places and share his interests with;
some good cooking (who would decline Jill’s cakes etc); an introduction to the village where he could make new friends, join in the cricket club activities etc; a new family to get involved with and to enjoy their company; a chance to use his many skills such as decorating and yes, a place to stay overnight on occasion, which seems perfectly acceptable to me.
As for ‘free board and lodging’ we do not not know that he has moved in lock, stock and barrel. And what is wrong with the family having him to stay sometimes? He always seems to “pay” for his accommodation by making a meal or undertaking some task or other.
On the whole, I would say that both Jill and Leonard have benefitted from their friendship equally and it is pleasing to think that two elderly people can enjoy this time of their lives, in each other’s company
I will eat my cotton socks if Leonard turns out to be another dodgy character like Philip Moss!
And further, if I were to be left windowed in the next 1O -15 years I should hope that I am lucky enough to find a Leonard to share my final days with.
How strange! I wrote a long reply to Archerphile which sat here for over a week and has now completed disappeared!
Delete👏👏 Very well said,Archerphile. I totally agree.
ReplyDeleteArcherphile with reference to your last sentence......
ReplyDeleteI was fortunate enough to know a really lovely gentleman who was in his 90s when I first got to know him.
In modern parlance he was actually a "celebrity"(connected with cricket)
He was a widower but had a lady friend in another part of the Country.
His son told me that they spent one week at his house ,one week at her house and a fortnight in their own homes to get over the previous two weeks.
Sounds like an ideal arrangement: that way you don't lose your husband's pension!
ReplyDeleteTo me Leonard Berry is a good addition to Ambridge and Brookfield. This might though, just be due to the dulcet tones of Paul.Copely, which are the opposite of other characters.
ReplyDeleteYour not alone Miriam, I love Paul Copley in almost anything, although it’s a bit of a shock when he is cast as a bad’un.
DeleteTalking of Russ, I wonder where he is now and is he making a living out of his art? I suspect we may never know as he has been soundly written out! I brought him to mind when I read about a real case of a male teacher who had a relationship with a teenage pupil and has been struck off the teachers’ register. He is now married to her, she is 25 and they have two children. He is 50 so quite a big age difference and it will be more noticed as he ages. For lots of reasons, I’m pleased Lily and Russ have split up!
DeleteMy guess is that Leonard Berry will move into Brookfield permanently and use the proceeds from the sale of own property to lend Ruth and David the forty thousand they need to repay Vince Casey,........
ReplyDelete........Jill will be overjoyed, it will generally be seen as a positive outcome and Ben will begin to feel better.......
DeleteI agree the money will come from the bank of Mum and Leonard.
DeleteWith all this Self flagellating Ben is now at risk of self harm or potential suicide.
His constant reiteration of ‘it’s all my fault’ indicates little self awareness but lots of self absorption.
Enough angst to drive anyone mad.
Including the listener.
I agree Stasia.
DeleteThis listener for one has already reached that destination Stasia. I can only hope that Ben, as did the one time referrenced Oozlem Bird, will very soon reach the same end as that fowl's. Ever decreasing circles causing hin to disappear into his own fundament.
DeleteOh for the sound of silence, - He used to be famous for that!
How many listeners here think that:
ReplyDeletea) George Grundy spiked his mother's tea,
b) The tearoom is about to be hit by an outbreak of food poisoning and/or losses from the till?
I wouldn't put it past him Maryellen, but maybe he is just deluding himself that he can charm large tips from the customers. I am surprised that with Emma, Ed, Will and Clarrie all parenting him that he is behaving as he is. Eddie's influence perhaps.
DeleteOr, possibility (c), he and ‘Dredger’, who he phoned after Emma left the house, are staging Operation Cake Heist. (Shades of Nelson Gabriel, known to the gang that carried out the Borchester Mail Van Robbery as ‘Boss’ .... ). George certainly seems to be taking Grundy dodginess to a new level!
DeleteOr, possibility (d), the TA team are pulling our legs, and the phone call was about a computer game!
DeleteI read elsewhere that George said something about ‘Forza’ on the phone to his mate, which is, apparently a computer game- so you could be exactly right Maryellen.
DeleteSadly, just read the news of the death of Graham Blockley who played Robert Snell.
ReplyDeleteA GP in real life as well as appearing for many years in The Archers.
I wonder if Robert will be re-cast? I cant imagine his Lyndie without her dear Robert, always the sensible and calming influence on her more ambitious plans.
R.I.P.
That's very sad.
DeleteI had not heard about this AP how sad. I believe Graham practiced locally in Farnham Surrey 🤔
DeleteCorrection- Dorking!
DeleteArcherphile, thank you for posting this sad news, I am quite shocked as he wasn’t that old & only fairly recently retired as a GP. Well probably a couple of years ago, time does go by at an alarming rate. Like AP I’ll be interested to see how the SWs handle it.
ReplyDeleteYes, thanks for letting us know, Archerphile. Like KPnuts, I feel shocked and sad. A voice we will all miss.
ReplyDeleteVery sad. I liked Robert. By all accounts, Graham himself was equally likeable.
DeletePlease could someone fill me in on the Chris/Alice situation? I've just started listening again, on my phone this time, as it's part of my new life and holds no memories.
ReplyDeleteI was surprised to hear Chris and Alice amicably together and wondered how it had come about
Sarnia, they have been amicable since Chris and Brian stopped arguing about the divorce settlement, though this has not yet taken place. They organised Martha's christening to bring the two families together. Eddie was even collecting bets at the Bull that they'll get together again but Chris put him right about that.
DeleteThank you.
DeleteHow unfair of Pip to have a go at Chelsea tonight, about not having told her that Ben was the father of her baby at an earlier meeting. She seemed to be blaming Chelsea for the fact that Vince has pulled his money out of Brookfield. Nasty accusations even if she did apologise later.
ReplyDeleteI really do dislike Pip.
I was saddened too to learn that ‘Robert Snell’s’ actor has died.His was usually the distinctive, calming voice of reason when Lynda had a bee in her bonnet over some project or other.
ReplyDeleteI found Alice's visit to rehab rather unbelievable last night. Would they really not send a member of staff to greet her? Real rehab clinics would be very much aware of the memories and associations that can resurface and would, hopefully, be more protective of returning visitors.
ReplyDeleteAs I type, it occurs to me that if Alice could enter so easily without staff admitting her, is it equally easy for patients to exit and make their way to the nearest pub?
Of course, it was all set up for the miraculous diary and for Alice to inspire its author. But still it seems a case of not letting facts get in the way of a good story.
Perhaps they did, but wouldn't it have taken up valuable air time which was better spent on the story?
ReplyDeleteI agree that Pip had a cheek berating Chelsea about keeping quiet regarding the pregnancy.Granted,she did subsequently apologise,butI wonder what she would say if she ever discovers that Ben ,,in a state of shock ,after hearing Chelsea’s news,confided in Josh.,who seems to have been the soul of discretion.
ReplyDeleteI think they tried to cover it by having Sally say that she had been sent to tell Alice which room she would be in and to say that Luke , presumably a staff member, apologised for not meeting Alice and would be there as soon as he could.
ReplyDeleteI fear for Ben. He seems to be spiralling down into self recrimination and deep depression.
ReplyDeleteSurely someone in the family can see what’s happening and insist on him getting professional help somehow.
I am also amazed that Elizabeth seems to be finding excuses for Vince and has not yet given him his permanent marching orders. He is poison.
Not for the first time, I’ve lost the plot! I must have missed Chris acquiring ownership of a Home Farm Cottage. Was that part of the divorce settlement? I can understand Chris renting it out and continuing to live with Martha above the village shop, which must be a more convenient and less isolated location, with Granny Susan around and village amenities nearby, like swings on the Green, as well as use of the property’s garden.
ReplyDeleteShould be “swings in the Playground” of course!
DeleteBrian gave the cottages to Alice and Kate, who is renting hers out and first living at the Lodge and now with Jakob - where? and why does he want to move?
ReplyDeleteI don't think Chris is the owner but since he could stay there, they presumably agreed he can let it.
How can Ben make some money fast? By gambling or prostitution.
I thought it was agreed that Chris was to have one of the cottages for himself and Martha as part of the agreement with Brian. But since the divorce has not been finalised yet he is not yet the legal owner, as evidenced by the conversations last night.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile CHRIS has decided to stay at the flat, hence he won’t be needing to live in the cottage himself and can therefore rent it out.
Mind you, this has all been going on so long with so many convolutions, I may well have lost the plot somewhere along the line!
You are quite right, I remember Brian being surprised when Chris said he wouldn't be moving into the cottage. Brian had been pleased because felt that in the farm cottage Martha would still be closely involved with the Aldridge family but Chris was quite clear with him that he wanted more distance from Alice's family.
DeleteChris is so supportive of Alice that I do wonder if they will get together again one day.
Isn’t the cottage due to be part of Chris divorce settlement? He asked Alice if he was jumping the gun and should he have checked with Brian first, Kate replied no matter it won’t be long now anyway or did I get this wrong?
ReplyDeleteLots of chat about Brian and Jennifer including Brian’s health issues paving the way for his demise? Plus Jennifer then off to live with Debbie in Hungary = 2 actor retirements covered! Or a fatal crash on the way to the Gym for the two of them….
Thank you all! I remember reading somewhere that the Home Farm partnership still owns the freehold of the cottages, so Brian/Home Farm’s ‘gift’ to his daughters may have been the leasehold (ditto for Chris?) or simply free occupancy, rather than outright ownership. I thought idly that it would be neat if Chris’s cottage was previously Kate’s, and that’s why Jakob was interested in renting it...
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I think Chris and Neil have got the measure of George!
ReplyDeleteI agree ARCHERPHILE, and I can imagine them both to conspire in guiding
DeleteGeorge away from his potentially criminal future, towards activities less harmful to him and others.
Yes! A good thought about George with Chris + Neil. I can see George with the muckiest jobs available, with Jazzer in charge. So much for his bragging, as to how he put one over with Martin Gibson, which Neil must know about.
DeleteI would like Chris + Martha to take up residence in his soon to be cottage. I understand why he wants to rent it out, to get an extra income for childcare etc. for Martha.
ReplyDeleteI am not sure that this is the right way to go. Chris + Martha will stay in the shop flat, which I don't think is suitable for a young child. There are the steep stairs, no immediate access to a garden to play in and let of steam, and limited inside space for an active toddler. The cottage would be far more suitable for bringing up a young child and it is close to her Mum. Also childcare can be sorted.
I know that many in real life don't have any options, but Chris has.
He should think of Martha and her now fast developing life.
George made it clear that he has a new hero.
ReplyDeleteMartin Gibson.
He is choosing him as a role model.
If it means raking out muck to get MG’s attention he’ll do so.
I reckon Jill will want Ben to make it up to Beth and I was hoping to see the back of the Caseys.
ReplyDeleteThe pendant should have stayed in the family and gone to Pip who'd pass it on to Rosie.
Robin Fairbrother gave Rex the family ring when he observed that he was in love with Pip.
Interesting how they cram a lot of characters in these days, three apiece at Berrow, Brookfield and the Bull.
At this rate, George will be taking over Neil's job!!
ReplyDeleteWhat, working with mucky pigs? Nah, his ambition is to take over from Martin G.
DeleteI was thinking of Neil’s managerial role, I don’t think he does much hands on stuff these days. Working for and with MG would be George’s first step to becoming MG. hBut my post was really meant as a comment on the ridiculous unreality of this storyline.
DeleteBetter though than what was going on at the Bull.
DeleteI also prefer it to Ruairi's way from bedroom to boardroom.
I'm still uneasy, however, about the arson incident.
Message to KPNuts - did you exercise your administrator’s right to delete my reply to Archerphile about Leonard Berry.? If yes, could you tell me why please, so I don’t transgress again!🙂
ReplyDeleteHi Maryellen. I haven’t knowingly deleted any posts, I don’t know how easy it is to do accidentally as I imagine you would need to confirm your intent. That said I have never tried so maybe it only needs single click.
DeleteHi KPNuts - weirder and weirder! I find deleting posts a bit of a performance so I’m unlikely to have done it accidentally and in any case it would have shown up as a deletion. Maybe I offended Google in some. way, though it took some time for the system to react. It’ll have to remain one of Life’s Mysteries!
DeleteThis comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
DeleteDeletion is a definite 2 step process & produces a message. Computers are definitely weird things!
DeleteYes, I see what you mean. I suppose if I was trying to be scientific, I would retype and find out if the same thing happened again - but life is far too short and as long as Archerphile got her answer, that's it!
DeleteThat is very strange Maryellen. I remember your reply and I am certain it didn’t contain anything Google could possibly object to!
ReplyDeleteIf one deletes one of one’s own posts, a message comes up saying ‘this comment has been removed by the author’.
I have never seen one saying it has been removed by a blog administrator.
Maybe this is some new feature of Googleblogs, or a glitch.
I hope it doesn't keep happening!
Jill was clearly more upset than she had previously admitted by the baby episode. I'm not sure her response to Ben was particularly helpful, but I wonder if it was influenced by memories of Elizabeth's termination? I wasn't listening then, but I think Jill was probably presented with a fait accompli. Doubtless she was very sympathetic and supportive of her daughter in the aftermath of the sorry affair, but how much had she had to bite her tongue and keep her own feelings to herself? And at the same time she was also trying to support Shula who desperately wanted to have a baby but couldn't get pregnant.
ReplyDeleteI was very shocked by Jill this evening and the way she spoke to Ben.
ReplyDeleteOK, she may have had memories of Elizabeth &Shula but to tell Ben she was ashamed of him was downright cruel. This is going to set him back even further and could provoke a proper breakdown.
If Ruth and David can be understanding and supportive why can’t Jill. I think Leonard will be shocked at her behaviour too.
Apart from that, Jill’s voice sounded dreadful tonight. I find myself agreeing with Maryellen, it really is time she was eased out of the programme. I never thought I should think or say that!
‼️I’m thinking Jill is going to die very soon and that tonight’s words were her last spoken to Ben which will take him over the edge. Leonard said Jill was not feeling well which is a first as even though over ninety she is usually a whirling dervish so…..
DeleteBrad keep well away from Mia & George!
It was a shock to hear indefatigable Jill say “I feel tired”. I must admit my lurid imagination shot forward to a deathbed reconciliation between her and Ben! Maybe feeling below par will be the excuse for her harsh words to him.
DeleteWe have also had indications that Emma is not well, headaches, looking dreadful etc.
DeleteIs there some new illness spreading around Ambridge that will weed out some of the cast, á la the Plane crash on Emmerdale Farm?
😉
At long last, Covid has reached Ambridge!
DeleteI wonder what Jill was more upset about, the loss of the baby or the loss of Brookfield land.
ReplyDeleteTo me Jill's reaction was
ReplyDeletea) generation/age related
b) disappointment with her grandson.
What she didn't do was to find out how Ben was feeling, and why.
Hoping that the Lovely Leonard will be the one to help them both, and for the better.
I just hate the idea of Jill being so antagonistic to, what was her favourite grandson.
They need to get back to how they were, before it is too late to repair the damage done to their previous close relationship.
Jill the wicked mother-in-law who never liked Ruth, who never liked her, another relationship on the rocks. I don't think Jill can apologise if this is how she feels, but as Miriam says, she could reach out to Ben and hear what he has to say.
ReplyDeleteJulianne is wary of losing her grip on Ruairi, she's very manipulative, but that's what happens in a mix of sex and money, I really dislike this set up.
I was sitting listening to "I'm sorry I haven't a clue" when after it and the News finished it was "The Archers "of course.
ReplyDeleteI was too idle to turn it off and after the rubbish with , I presume, Ruarie and an older woman I heard Ruth having a go at Jill.
I think she ,Ruth was a disgrace.
She was rude to the extreme.
The way she was comforting Ben as if he was the main person who was suffering and when he was old enough to understand what he was doing disgusted me.
Jill is an old lady
Did Ben go crying to his mummy about what Jill had said to him?
Does he feel proud about the way he behaved?
I realise even more now why I dislike so many of the characters.
I have never liked Ruth, especially when she insisted Jill had to move out of what was her family home to make room for her own mother. Don't much like Pip either. I hope they find a dairy farm somewhere else and leave. Ruth has consistently overridden David's wishes for the farm, and there is no gratitude there for the fact that she was enabled to be out on the farm by Jill, who cooked for the family and did the housework for years.
DeleteAnd I am glad that someone has thought of the baby and its destruction. Maybe the fact that Ben didn't just shows his immaturity as a man. Will he ever develop the protectiveness needed as a father I wonder.
I am sorry but "needs must* I felt that Jill got only half the wigging she richly deserved. As i recall Leonard heard her diatribe against aBen and he had s few moments before been supportive of Ben's feelings.
ReplyDeleteThe excuse that Jill is an old lady does not wash with me i am 82 ++ and i wouldn't want to be excused for thoughtless cruel behaviour on that pretext. As for David ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?
No Pierre, the age thing doesn't wash with me either. My own Mum was of an even older age group than Jill and was far more open minded than Jill concerning pregnancy out of wedlock. I was horrified at her treatment of Ben, my Mum would never, ever have spoken to any of her grandsons like that.
DeleteThé years of frustration Ruth has felt at the hands of Jill really surfaced tonight. I believe Jill was never fully approving of Ruth as a daughter in law and very much enjoyed still acting as matriarch of Brookfield.
David was absolutely pathetic. He should have stood up for his son and his wife to Jill.
Strangely, I have never much like Ruth, thought her pretty hopeless as a wife and mother whereas I had always felt felt at one with Jill
But tonight, the tables were completely turned for me.
Well Pierre we will agree to differ.
ReplyDeleteLike Janice I have never liked Ruth and agree with the comments she made about her.
Would I have spoken to my grandson had he been in a similar situation?
No I would not but on the other hand my daughter in law would never speak to me in the way Ruth spoke to Jill.
I have to admit I haven't heard all the episodes relating to the pregnancy but the ones I have heard made me feel that although Ben wished it had never happened his mother didn't seem to blame him and was no doubt relieved that Chelsea decided on having an abortion.
The whole business sounds more like East Enders or Coronation Street although to be fair I don't watch either although I did watch Coronation Street in the days of Ena Sharples.
Wow Ruth talk about “go girl” I was once in your position ie MIL taking precedence and husband never seeing any wrong hard going in a marriage but as I was only in my 20’s (and not the done thing in those days anyway) I would never have dared to let rip instead it all culminated in health issues on my part from staying silent.
ReplyDeleteThankfully I eventually moved on albeit after many years - and have now had 26yrs of relaxed happiness ⭐️
I don’t think that either Jill or Ruth came out of that episode well ,especially when the latter went off on her rant at her mother in law,taking the matter into the past way beyond Ben andthe pregnancy issue..
ReplyDeleteI’ve never been a fan of Ruth,especially when,a few years ago ,she suggested that they should sell Brookfield’ and move the business to a farm in Northumberland to be near her widowed mother.As an after thought,Jill was offered the chance to move north with the family.
Pierre, I agree Jill should have minded her own business.
ReplyDeleteThe decision to abort the pregnancy was Chelsea’s and hers alone. Other than offering to be a caring sharing person the only role Ben played was to be the sperm donor.
He kept turning up when told he wasn’t wanted or needed. Unceremoniously turfed out his girlfriend and then became a blubbering idiot.
Jill wanting another GGGC was not her decision to make or influence. Being an elder person does not give her the right to castigate Ben for a decision he had no right to make either.
If Jill, at the age of 90yrs + is an example of being stuck in the past and unable to think creatively then she should be assessed for dementia.
Jill cannot influence others to conform to her authority which she has been doing since she returned to Brookfield. David is a wimp
DeleteAbout time Ruth put her point of view a cross.
Jill like Peggy has become an elderly matriarch who dictates and brooks no opposition. As Stasia says, the abortion was Chelsea’s choice not Ben’s although he supported her decision. Jill upset an already fragile Ben and just prior to Ruth’s home truths she breezed in as if nothing had happened. Ruth letting rip might encourage Jill to keep her own counsel in future. It is all too easy to walk on eggshells around the elderly but should not be at the expense of other family members. David could have acted by just gently pointing out that Jill could have been more understanding thus curbing Ruth’s obvious distress and averting the showdown.
ReplyDeleteThere was a time when David and Ruth thought of moving to France and Jill told Ruth that she had been a newcomer and an outsider in the past. Ruth reconsidered, but it seems it's all been a waste of time.
ReplyDeleteAs for Ben, he was sobbing at the rave, then had it off with Chelsea as consolation and has been sobbing ever since. Perhaps Ruairi will shake him up if he manages to escape his sex trap.
Well said, Basia. Ben's constant bursting into tears casts doubts as to his suitability for his chosen profession. TA's reliance on female tirades is also getting on my nerves: first Alice slating Ruari (or was it a subconscious Brian?), then Tracy accusing Russ with no justification whatsoever, and now Ruth letting off steam at Jill with ample justification.
DeleteI think your last sentence may well turn out to be true. Ruari will achieve what Leonard Berry's recommendation of pie and chips didn't!
Not sure about Ruairi sorting Ben out. I didn't think that Jill's tirade at Ben was the right thing to do, but Ben did take the moral high ground with Ben over his relationship with Julianne.
DeleteI wonder how many people took vicarious pleasure in Ruth's rant, wishing they'd ever had the courage similarly to articulate how they really felt about their reception into a family?
ReplyDeleteOh yes!
DeleteYes 12.14am post!
DeleteWell, on reflection I think most everyone here is right. It’s a case of ‘it’s not what you say, it’s how you say it’. Yes, Jill needed to be told to try and repair the damage she has caused, by apologising to Ben. I thought Leonard might have done something of the sort since he walked in on Jill with Ben in tears and asked what was going on - but its seems not, and with David reluctant to beard his mother, it fell to Ruth. There are various ways she could have done it better and avoided a rant. As it is, she has made a bad situation worse.
ReplyDeleteThat’s not meant to exonerate Jill who created the situation by expressing the views to which she is entitled in such a censorious and insensitive way. There is a lot of bad-mouthing of Jill on FB at the moment which is deeply depressing. I haven’t liked her in recent years but don’t want to add to it, so will end here.
Maybe its because Jill seems to have been tapped on the shoulder by the famous SW personality change fairy, which has so often affected characters in the past, to facilitate a storyline?
DeleteA lot of long term listeners (myself included) had considered Jill to be the rock of the family at Brookfield and her blast at Ben came as a shock.
She has definitely disappointed me and Ruth’s tirade reminded me of many things from the past concerning her relationship with Jill
I wonder what Jill would have thought if that affair with that cow man, some years back?
I don't believe in the personality change fairy any more than the tooth fairy! The seeds of the behaviour I've disliked in Jill in recent years were evident in the early days of her marriage. I think her jealousy was founded in insecurity - so it is sadly ironic that listeners thought of her as a rock.....
DeleteMaryellen - you have described perfectly what I was trying to say in my post at 6.09 yesterday.
DeleteAnd I don’t think I have ever felt that Jill was the rock of the family.
She may well have been the glue that binds them, but is that the same as a rock that is the foundation of a building ?
Esscee - I was listening when Elizabeth had her abortion, but I really can’t remember the details. I think that is because so little was made of it at that time.
ReplyDeleteI seem to remember that Jill did know about it but at what stage in the situation I do not remember, nor do I remember Jill’s reaction.
I genuinely cannot remember Jill’s reaction but I have a lasting sense that she accepted it as inevitable.
I’m happy to be proved wrong by any other long term listener.
As Portia said, neither Jill nor Ruth come out of it well. David and Ruth have been married for 34 (?) years and if as Ruth says she's been biting her lip for so long then they have both been living a lie.
ReplyDeleteThis is just to create as much fallout as possible, perhaps Chelsea should drop in and say, yeah, right, what's done is done, now get on with it.
I haven’t joined in the discussion on the Jill and Ruth altercation, but it has led me to reflect on my feelings about Jill.
ReplyDeleteI have to admit that I never have liked Jill 100%.
I think that I’ve always felt that there was a vicious little elf inside this seemingly lovely woman, wife to Phil and mother to four lovely children.
I am not able to put my finger on the specific times that I’ve heard this creature behind that sweet voice, but it’s often poked it’s head out for me to hear it.
I conclude that Paddy Green is an excellent radio actor for me to be able to hear the hidden creature hiding behind her voice.
My concern is for Ben. He stood by and supported Chelsea as to her decision, regardless of what he felt. At no time did he give the slightest hint of his own feelings as to the situation.
ReplyDeleteNow he is has broken up with Beth, had the diatrube from his Grandma, feels that Vince's withdrawing of the Brookfield loan is due purely to him.
He is just a vunerable young bloke, who was about to give up his chosen career, and has taken it all so personally. It is a lot for such a burfen on stiill, young shoulders.
He knows the mistake he made, accelerated by Beth's reaction to the Steph situation, yet he seems the victim of all that has happened.
At least Ruth sees what is happening to him, and is showing the love a mother has for her son, in caring and supporting him, in the best way she can..
I know what Ruairi was doing but no idea what Brad and Mia were up to, I'll soo learn, no doubt.
ReplyDeleteI got very confused tonight about who was speaking to whom.
ReplyDeleteI worked out that we had Ben and Ruairi to start with and then the new vet nurse joined in.
But what was going on at the end. They all sounded the same to me and I have no idea who went where with whom!
The synopsis on the BBC’s TA website sheds some light.
DeleteLooks like Adam & Ian are about to be overtaken by a younger couple! What goes around comes around Mia & Brad - remember the trashing of the GM crops now it’s the turn of The Hunt Ball to be sabotaged.
ReplyDeleteI am a bit disappointed in another male same sex partnership, which is being hinted at. I have a feeling about Stella, as at no time has she spoken about previous relationships, in any way.
DeleteThis brings me onto another thought which is - Stella is renting The Bungalow. Why don't David + Ruth offer it to her to buy? She seems to have a steady job as the Home Farm Manager. It would be Win Win. Stella would have her own home, plus the money is there to pay Vince off plus the ability to pay off other loans.
What a great suggestion Miriam 👏🏻
DeleteAlong with Lady R and hopefully others, but not with ARCHERPHILE I detected gay flirting between Ruari and the new vet nurse. Can’t remember if Ben picked up on it though.
ReplyDeleteHowever I do agree with ARCHERPHILE, they all had a similarity of voice, tone and expression.
Ben said straightaway, you like him, you're so transparent, while Paul was changing the tyre. Anybody else would have stood over him to keep him company, but that wouldn't allow for this particular exchange. Anyway, the moment Paul appeared, that was his role to fulfill, transparent or what. Ruairi didn't want to commit at once but by giving him the detailed directions Paul left the way open for him to follow, he even made it clear that his mate was a she though she had a non binary name.
DeleteOnly five characters last night, but quite a lot of action, still don't know what Brad and Mia were hiding.
I also agree with Maryellen, that when people lash out at others, it is out of insecurity.
I must bear that in mind.
DeleteI hope Brad manages to repair the damage in time, he asked Oliver twice the rhetorical question as to how much the hunt ball meant to him.
ReplyDeleteOh Brad I told you in an earlier post not to get embroiled with Mia 😡
ReplyDeleteToo late you have realised the hurt you will be causing Oliver and that you will be denying Charities / Food Bank generous monetary donations and wrecking your own future into the bargain.
Can’t decide what Rurair’s (spelling!) game is did he really mean he was missing family and friends or maybe he is getting fed up with his controlling cougar 🤔
I don't know about missing old friends but he certainly seems to be very interested in his new friend.
DeletePAUL: I’ll need a suit. Hope it will be worthwhile.
DeleteRUARI: It will be. [End of episode music]
Was that code for what I think it was??
I miss the background music to match the mood - the cuts no doubt.
ReplyDeleteThis was always so true in the Tea Room, where sadly very few chats and meet-ups, seem to happen now. There was always a suitable piece of music in the background.
DeleteHow silly was that - as if Mia could get all the road signs needed which she, Brad and others(?) were able to put out so quickly...
ReplyDeleteIt was just ludicrous.
👍 👏🏻 Miriam
DeleteI've no idea if Brad and Mia's plan was do-able, but this was sitcom not real life, so it worked and it made me laugh!
DeleteHow were they supposed to carry them there, or move them from elsewhere. Did they use wheelbarrows? 😂
DeleteMuscle power (supplied by Brad?)
DeletePS. We know Brad is a muscular lad (as well as being brainy). All that hefting of hay bales last summer, and Oliver getting him to shift loads of canned goods ar the food bank. A couple of road signs would be no prob.
DeleteI think Mia should be fast-tracked onto the Parish Council! With her talents and commitment she'd be a real asset to Ambridge!. I was cheering her on, and hoping Brad would remain supportive which to his credit, he did.
ReplyDeleteA younger version of Emma and Kirsty rolled into one!
DeleteOn Monday night we heard a massive row between Ruth and Jill.
ReplyDeleteSince then, not a word about it, just this stupid Hunt Ball stuff.
I want to know consequential reaction from all concerned and the fall out. Who else in the family knows about it etc etc.
Badly done BBC
I think we're due that tonight (it being Friday!)
DeleteI suspect padding! 😫 This scatter gun approach to story lines is more than frustrating.
DeleteI so agree about the scatter gun approach Pierre it's really unsatisfying.
DeleteI think some sort of censorship is going on with this blog. Not from our super administrator KP but from Google itself.
ReplyDeleteTwice in the past few days I have posted about now understanding the situation with Ben, Ruairi and Paul. If you remember, I said I couldn’t understand their conversation due to similarity of voices .
In the 2 new posts I said I suddenly remembered some personal information given by Ruairi to Ben some time ago (wont say what, because I think this is what got censored) and the situation became clear to me, that Ruairi and Paul seemed to be striking up a ‘friendship’.
Both of these posts, which did definitely ‘publish’ but have now gone. I can only assume that Google Blogs have some sort of algorithm to weed out certain words or phrases and it is being used here.
Hm, you are right, mine got removed because I said Ruairi told Ben, Brian and Jennifer that he was bisexual, again?
DeleteAha, so it's not this but when I said I liked the sound of Ruairi and could see why JW liked him, but I didn't like their set up, this should be innocuous enough.
DeleteSunday Nov.20th is Stir Up Sunday, as far as Christmas Puds are concerned.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if this will be heard again in Ambridge, with Jill in charge along with others there, to share and take part.
I doubt it though, with another tradition being lost.
Oh well, my pud was done last weekend.
I was so glad that,thanks to Eddie’s rumbling of their road blocks scam ,Mia and Brad didn’t achieve their plan to completely spoil the Ball which appears to have .turned out to be a success.I hope that Brad will now give Mia a wide berth and apply himself to the course that Oliver has so kindly encouraged him to attend.
ReplyDeleteEddie sussed it, as after all he has been a master of such subterfuges in the past. It takes one, to know one!
DeleteYou're right, he was impressed and if not already he'll soon know whose behind it.
DeleteYou are so right,Miriam !
ReplyDeleteDidn't they tell Jill or she forgot? In her place I wouldn't leave but say over my dead body.
ReplyDeleteStill, if she's intent on going perhaps she'll see Ben and make peace with him.
I don't like the raging Ruth nor the rickety Jill.
At least Jill still has her own property of Glebe Cottage. A nice bolt hole in Ambridge to move into.
ReplyDeleteYes, but Carol is there, isn't she, still, or has she moved on?
DeleteJill moved to Brookfield because she didn't like living at Glebe Cottage any more.
DeleteHollowtree is where Josh keeps his hens.................
ReplyDeleteThere should still be plenty of room for the hens, it is only one field that they are contemplating selling.
DeleteFor one brief moment I expected Leonard to find Jill dead when he went upstairs to get her.
Where does she expect to go, just like that ?
Perhaps she is hoping that Leonard will bale her out and take her to his home.
I wrote my comment before reading any others to find you were of the same mind Mrs P!
DeleteI posted earlier in the week that I thought Jill was about to be written out but not so far!
The other possibility, although done before with Jack is dementia the memory confusion and burst of anger could be a sign and many people suffer this way so more than one case in the village is feasible but I do hope not 🙏🏼 either way I’m sure Patricia Greene will be leaving the programme. I am just so surprised nothing positive has been said regarding Angela Piper “Jennifer” ‘s actor she is now the second longest serving actor in the cast and her absence is now quite glaringly obvious. Most of the senior character actors are now of course in their late 70’s to late 80’s so one can hardly blame them for not wanting to travel.
Somehow I’ve always thought (that like myself 🤣) they would be forever young 😢
Perhaps she'll go to Lower Locksley again.
ReplyDeleteI thought under the agreement arrived at in Phil's time that if Brookfield, or any part of it, was ever sold then the money had to be shared between all 4 siblings, so not just David but Shula and Kenton and Elizabeth as well. I think I am right so is it Ruth and David or the scriptwriters who have forgotten that.
If they are just selling 4 acres and if it goes for £10,000 per acre then they will have to pay out to the others and will only be left with £10,000 which will be nowhere near enough to pay Vince back.
I think it is time Jill moved into The Laurels with her sister-in-law, Chris. Leonard can visit her there.
ReplyDeleteWell I was convinced that when Leonard went to wake Jill he would find that she had died in her sleep therefore leaving Ruth and David’s relationship in an impossible situation. Mind you that is probably still the case. Where is Jill going “back” to LL or to live with Leonard - wherever that is….
ReplyDeleteThe Jill we knew would have put family before land especially her beloved Ben and reiterated that the farm is now D & R to run as they see fit as she and Phil did in their day after all it’s not the whole farm up for grabs - that’s been done before of course!
It is obvious that the team and listeners expect to write out Jill, we'll just have to wait and see when and how it's done. I the meantime I don't like D&R marriage going to pieces, have they been insincere for 34 years? Jill was removed to LL before, when Heather was to come to Brookfield and it was Ruth who at some point went over to invite her back. Families and people in general are fallible especially over sex and money.
ReplyDeleteAs a founding member of the Jill fan club I remain loyal to her and am saddened by this state of affairs.
I too was a fervent member of the Jill fan cub, as said before she has been my rôle model for many years.
DeleteBut no longer, I am afraid. I sincerely hope I don’t follow her rôle as a grandmother recently or ever become as is transigent as she has been over Ben and the aborted baby, or treat my son and daughter in law the way she is treating David and Ruth.
She has become a nasty old woman, intent on hurting members of her family and I sincerely hope that is something aI would never do.
But who knows, if her change of character is the result of a form of dementia, it could change any of us, God forbid.
Re the proposed sale of the piece of land at Hollow Tree.I immediately envisiged Kenton jumping in again to claim his share of the proceeds as before.However, I may be wrong,but question if the he and the others would have any claim as the funds are to be used to repay a loan for the installation of solar panels at Brookfiel,considered an asset to the business.
ReplyDeleteThat’s an interesting point , Portia. I hope it comes up. I agree that if any of the sibs raises the matter, it will surely be Kenton!
DeleteMy thought still has to be Glebe Cottage. She left, what was her then home, after Phil died there and didn't want to be there alone with the memories. David + Ruth inited her back to Brookfield to live.
ReplyDeleteCarole T still rents it, but they are good friends, so Jill could easily move back into her own property as a share, until Carole moves to be near her daughter in Cheltenham.
In Glebe Cottage Jill can still live a good life in Ambridge whilst close to her family, along with memories of Phil. and the years they had there together.
As I recall, Jill didn’t want to live on her own any more, in Glebe Cottage, because she didn’t feel safe from burglars etc. I think the same considerations would apply, especially now Jill is older and (it seems) frailer, even if there wasn’t the question of Carol’s tenancy and the loss of income from her rent. (We don’t know what Carol’s own circumstances are, or her daughter Anna’s.)
ReplyDeleteI agree with Archerphile that The Laurels is theTA team’s best bet! Should have happened 2 years ago, imo.
Have to agree to disagree. I cannot see, the still feisty and opiniated Jill, residing in a care home even if it is The Laurels. She deserves better in her dotage than that. I don't think she is reliant on the rent of Glebe Cottage, so can live her days out there with whatever help is needed.
DeleteIt will be interesting to know where she ends up - it might surprise us all!
Peggy + Jill together in The Lodge, as two silent characters...😆
Do Les Sœurs Hereuse have a flat attached to their restaurant? Jill could be their in-house flapjack baker.
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DeleteIf Jill’s fate should happen to befall her over Christmas then TA really will have become E.Enders on radio!
ReplyDeleteI think she should go to Lower Locksley. It will be nice for Freddie and Lily to have the opportunity to become closer to their grandmother. Previously Jill has always seemed to focus on, and spoil with her cooking, Ben, Pip and Josh. She can eat in the Orangery, for free I would hope, if she doesn't feel like cooking. There is a lovely outdoor space to walk in and lots of interesting activities going on, and Leonard can visit her there now that Ruth has made him feel unwelcome at Brookfield.
ReplyDeleteShe didn't like it at Lower Loxley when she was there before.
DeleteAlso, Lower Loxley's close relationship to Brookfield and Jill's cutting Brookfield out of her life would make things very difficult for Elizabeth and the youngsters, having to watch what they did and said etc. What she really wants of course it to feel she matters. That's what all the cooking was about, and why she was put out previously when Lower Loxley didn't need her for that.
DeleteLower Loxley is like staying at an hotel, when told by Elizabeth she could have a cup of tea any time at the Orangery, Jill said from a paper cup? She could go and stay with Carol, or Leonard, but I think she should go to the Stables and make peace with Ben, before it's too late. She could cook for him and Josh.
ReplyDeleteI've just been listening to the Sunday Omnibus. I wish I could have let rip at my MiL like that when she told me I was an unsuitable mother and was going to take the children away! Like David, Mr S said and did nothing. I think he was afraid of her as well.
ReplyDeleteHer plan was never carried out - she got cancer and died.
Oh Sarnia. I don’t know whether to commiserate or congratulate. What an awful situation for you. I know what you mean about mothers in law though. Mine was very clingy and was constantly phoning for Mr A to go over and mend things, or decorate, or fetch things, or take her somewhere, after we were married. We lived 50 miles away and had 2 small children.
DeleteI was saved by her early death at the age of 60 from Parkinson’s Disease. I know it sounds unsympathetic but she would have ruled our and the childrens lives had she lived until old age.
I know exactly what you mean AP. That early death saved the marriage from her overbearing interference. I felt very guilty, as if I had wished it on her, but of course, it was none of my doing.
DeleteThe above makes me realise how lucky I was. I had the best mum in law ever, and still miss her.
DeleteAnd most probably Janice, you are one now to your family.
DeleteShe spent virtually a lifetime caring for her handicapped son ( hit by a lorry when 6) so didn't have it easy and she worried about what would happen to him after her time. He does have a support worker 4 mornings a week and is comparatively independent but I also do things to help in memory of my mum in law's kindness to me.
DeleteRuth annoys me in that she seems to have forgotten all the things Jill has done for the family in the past, and bringing up old grudges about Jill now when she is old is the act of a bully. Anything Ruth didn't like she should have tackled and discussed and sorted out in earlier times.
This is a drama, the word "vicarious" was used, things like this rarely take place in real life.
ReplyDeleteMy personal experiences are of a different kind. As I said, Ruth's lip must be well bitten by now and she and Jill are just as bad as each other, two women in the same household doesn't bode well.
The afternoon drama from 1975, this and last Sunday is so silly that it made me laugh out loud for the first time in a long while. That's my sense of humour. If the Archers gets too close to the bone I stop listening and often find myself at odds with the others, so be it.
ReplyDeleteAha, the Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin by David Nobbs! Not sure if you are aware but it was made into to a brilliant TV drama series for BBC many years ago and we absolutely loved it. So funny!
DeleteI didn't know about the TV but to me it was pure escapism which it was about.
DeleteThe omnibus on a Sunday often gives me different thoughts, but this week this was not the case.
ReplyDeleteThis relates to how Brad + Mia caused the mischief of the road signs, which at the time I described as ludicrous. They got the road signs, stored them secretly at Grange Farm, to then move them again, transporting them to the roads, to then put them all in place, in an hour to cause so total disruption, whilst only using their bikes!
And how will Brad return the signs, as Eddie put them into the limo boot...
Am I to understand that George has a crush on Fallon?
ReplyDelete“The Bull” household is the reverse of Brookfield son (Adam) has every sympathy with Ruth but daughter in law is eager to befriend Jill 😳
Jill certainly appears to have the energy of a 20yr old with no physical problems whatsoever at 90yr or is it 91 now. The longer this situation continues the more convinced I am than that Jill will be killed off around Christmas/ New year before any reconciliation can take place. Giving the actor the exit she needs due to her own disability and age (not being a Jill in real life) and an ongoing Archer SL
I agree that there is a final storyline vibe for Jill here, I but hope that she & Ben can make their peace before anything happens. I got the feeling that Ben was not whole hearted in favour of Chelsea’s decision but, correctly in my view, accepted that it had to her choice. I do wish that he had perhaps discussed the option of adoption with her, which would have opened up plenty of story line choices for the SWs.
ReplyDeleteJill had to go to Kenton as Elizabeth would have argued Ben’s case quite vociferously, I felt that Kenton was not that thrilled to have his Mother staying.
I have looked into my crystal ball and it tells me that Jill will depart this world just before Christmas.
ReplyDeleteHer demise will be the result of going to the cellar to check on her stored puds. She will be clutching her wooden spoon causing her to ‘trip the light fantastic’ down to the bottom.
Christmas misery all round.
But fear not, as in all good soaps Jill will return,,,,,,,,,To haunt The Bull and possibly Brookfield as the 👻🥄🧟♂️ Ghost of Christmas Past.
I don't want Jill to die, I just don't want to hear her again. I think the editor is doing the programme no favours by continuing to employ an actor who is clearly no longer able to do the job. I'm surprised the actor hasn't thought of this too, maybe she has at last.
ReplyDeleteSo it seems to me that since The Bull is obviously only a temporary billet, Jill should turn to the only untried one of her four children (and probably the one best suited to coping with her in her final days) - Shula. I'm sure Shula wouldn't mind sharing her Sunderland kitchen as cooking seems to be JIll's mainspring. I do still think The Laurels would the best solution, a self-contained apartment like Christine has sounds ideal, but maybe a complete change of environment would be more effective.
Not quite sure which anniversary TA will be celebrating next, but can’t help remembering the death of Nigel was just after Christmas on a big Archers anniversary.
ReplyDeleteWill Jill be sacrificed for the next one?
I hope it is not messy or dramatic, just being found asleep in a chair, like Phil, will do.
Perhaps a chair at The Laurels?
DeleteI was thinking of Nigel’s demise when the Christmas/ New Year scenario popped into my head AP…..Next Jan 1st it will be 72yrs since TA started had it been 75yrs I think that would have clinched it, however this is more to do with Patricia Greene’s eye (and age) condition hard when you have to read a radio script and have always been sighted. Has “Jazzer” actor always been blind I’m not sure I guess his script is in braille?
DeleteIt’s the loss of her vocal skills (an absolute necessity in a radio actor’) that I think is the chief reason for the actor to retire/be retired. ‘Peggy’ was lucky to keep hers for so long and continue to ‘act with her voice’. Sadly, Jill’s attempts to ‘act with her voice’. tend to distort. There may be a hearing problem contributing to that, since we need to hear our voices in order to monitor them (usually without realising we’re doing it, unless we’re actors or speechifiers!)
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