BasiaJuly 1, 2026 at 8:50 AM Ed won't show his texels because Brian says no and Keira won't step in - they'll have to think of some other solution.
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maryellenJuly 1, 2026 at 12:07 PM Let’s hope Keira can be persuaded to change her mind and boost her self belief.
MiriamJuly 1, 2026 at 5:03 PM How sad Brian has quashed Ed's chance at the show with his texels. Ed must also have had someone else to step in to drive the trailer and help Keira- Eddie? Did think of George, but he'd be too busy with the media side of things and also still can't drive.
Cheshire CheeseJuly 1, 2026 at 6:23 PM Typical of Brian to say he'll be flexible and then refuse to be flexible.
AmbridgesMrsPJuly 1, 2026 at 6:28 PM Can’t remember who said it, but correct IMO, Ambers father is a replacement for Matt Crawford. Out to have his way with every trick in the book. Blatantly squashing George with his own agenda and eventually manoeuvring George around to his argument.
I have accepted that as the older generation of actors fades away new blood is required in Ambridge, and so far I have accepted those new characters, but for a reason I cannot myself understand, I have not taken to Ambers parents at all, right from the beginning, and I really resent them becoming part of TA.
And now to cap it all, we are told they are from Lewisham. The Borough of Lewisham, where I grew up ( as did the awful Rachel Reeves ) and a place that i will forever disdain.
MiriamJuly 1, 2026 at 6:54 PM Bill reminds me more of Vince, not Matt. Matt was extremely scheming + devious at the expense of others, remember Christine losing her life savings,which doesn't sound like Bill at all. I did love Tiger though!
AmbridgesMrsPJuly 1, 2026 at 10:25 PM I meant in the way of scheming and manipulating Miriam. Not that he is dishonest.
Ed. I do hope he doesn't spy for + tittle-tattle to Martyn, as it won't be worth it. He's already in a difficult position with Brian, as he thinks he's just a contract worker, now to find he's supposedly Brian's deputy without the contract + pay! I do worry about Ed.
The Family Grundy cot.. I can think of 3 generations it's been used for, and would love a 4th one to also use it in a few months time. Just call me sentimental.. Tradition means much more than fancy gimmicky alternatives, and as Neil sad so wisely - All a baby needs is love. 🥰
I find impossible to take Martyn Gibson seriously these days. He sounds to me as if he’s permanently stuck in one of those comic relief episodes we get as an antidote to the over-serious ones, often associated with Eddie Grundy in. the past.I don’t if it’s poor editing, scripting or acting - or just me.
I’ve never been able to take Martin Gibson seriously. He has always seemed to me to be a ‘ fill in ‘, used to fill in a gap in the flow of life in Ambridge.
Remember how awful Martyn Gibson was to Kathy at the Golf Club, so she resigned +-left her job, hardly a fill-in part then. However he knows Brian well, having been together on the BL board for very many years, my guess is at least 15yrs if not a lot more. If anyone knows Brian + Adam well, then it's him as he has seen many Adam/Brian clashes before, such as at the Mega Dairy set-up. Martyn to me is the one person who could help sort Brian + the Home Farm situation out. OK - there have been fun interludes with Martyn - the mobile sauna, taking dating tips from Chelsea + Zainab but he did show a different side of him with them. I do think though, he's not just a fill in character, but one who can perhaps make a difference, be it only in the short-terrn.
I agree, Miriam, that Martyn Gibson’s role as a leading local businessman is an influential one, but there seems a discrepancy between the role and the man who to me always sounds like a buffoon, not just when he is being one. The actor’s vocal style is partly to blame. I think it dates back to TA’s ill-judged spoof on A Christmas Carol.
Thank you Maryellen, you’ve given me the words I could not find for myself on this occasion. It is the actors vocal style that for me places him in a derisory position, leaving me to dismiss him entirely. It makes him a lightweight whom I cannot take seriously.
Yes, I agree with all three of you above, but since Martyn's wife left him, he's undergone a change of character together with his clothes style, romping on Tracy's sofa and I can't take him seriously either.
Listening to the Omnibus today I was confused - are Chris and Lottie a couple? Didn't realise they even knew each other. And, I didn't realise Chris and Martha are still living with Fallon and will have to move when whatsisname comes home. (Thanks to dying in Coronation Street!) Surely the flat above the shop must be repaired by now?
Yes Archerphile, Chris and Lottie have been "an item" for a while now and we got rather a lot of them recently. I can't remember when she became a receptionist at the surgery, but never mind. Her daughter is called Madison and you were thinking of Harrison coming back.
I always enjoy the omnibus and play a game, as to spot what has been cut out from the nightly episodes. Today's was so obvious - Helen going off to sort out the SUV driver parking outside, so Kirstu hung the wallpaper upside down. Although this wasn't anything to do with the current S/L, it was never the less, one of the more comedic scenes.
28th to the 30TH of July Archerphile ⭐️‼️ The New Forest County Show, as for the weather who knows probably too hot or if not too wet but I don’t think that is likely just yet 🙃
Seems like my question as to when Chris will be moving back into the flat above the shop was answered tonight! And, Basia, I had completely missed out onLottie/Chris. I only knew she worked at the surgery. Their relationship just passed me by!!
As far as I remember they had the first date, realised who each other were and Chris told Fallon, they might meet up again. It's all been behind the scenes really, until recently. I still want Chris + Alice to re-unite - if only dreams came true said wistfully..
I feel the family dynamics are bound to change when Martha starts doing things with Chris plus Lottie in Alice’s place, also Alice plus Rex in Chris’s place though this doesn’t seem to be happening. Maybe Martha will take it all in her stride and perhaps play it for al it’s worth, or. maybe she with become confused and unsettled with all that brings. Any child psychologists around?
No, not a child psychologist, but a displaced mother, when the next wife became established, and one child in particular wanted to be with her daddy and would pay any price to do so. I don’t think she had or has any confusion over her choice, but her sister was quite definitely challenged with the loyalty that became a struggle for her. And the displaced wife still feels the consequences of the loss of much of her daughter’s childhood’s.
So yes Maryellen, I agree, the family dynamics may well change.
There is something brewing in the George / Amber camp…. Has George been caught on video driving the car(s) or is Amber about to need an emergency trip to the hospital 🤔
Susan is the baby’s great grandmother, the Gordon’s are its grandparents, so they all belong to its extended family. As always, lovely Susan is doing her best. to be helpful. She is Ambridge’s least self centred resident.
Susan just wants to be nosy + see where they live along with a chance to mix with them, in the same way she was with Brian + Jennifer when Alice + Chris got married. I can just hear her saying to them - well we are almost family...😆
Yes, Miriam, I think she'll want to make the point that - we are family now. Let's see whether the outcome will be positive or will create a further rift, I'm prepared for a surprise.
I don’t think we have to take such a negative view of Susan. There’s a lot to admire in her. Yes, she may have been curious to see what the new additions to the Grundy/Carter clan were like - who wouldn’t be? All of us, for a start. But her primary motive was.to help Amber in any way she could. Satisfying her natural curiosity would be a bonus. Neil lacks curiosity as well as imagination
I certainly didn't think my view and comment was negative. It was just an observation based on Susan's previous ideas of joining those in other circles.
Miriam and BASIA - yes, precisely the point I took. Susan HAS to be involved, with the intention of heightening her own presence within the family hierarchy. That is Number one !
I can imagine Neil thinking….. oh dear, here we go again…… but I do love her.
Ah Sophie Wessex what a lovely surprised so genuine and unaffected I thought she did very well ⭐️ When I read the tag line I thought it might be Jeremy Clarkson 🙃
Lovely to hear that the special guest was Sophie Wessex. I like the way that she just gets on with job without any drama. Speaking of Bridge Farm, we survived the very hot weather at the Badminton flower show and were not disappointed by the TA 75th anniversary garden. Jo Thompson did her usual good job and there were some nice little touches. The goats weren't there because of the high temperature which I expected. It was an enjoyable day for us with the bonus of being able to visit family. Hopefully the garden will be shown on tomorrow's Gardener's World which comes from the show.
There's an interesting piece with photos, about the Duchess of Edinburgh doing the recording, on the BBC news website page, in case anyone is interested.
Sad, sad news. Just heard of the death of Paddy Green in the 8am news. The character I most admired and felt most like me for so many years. We had all thought she must be unwell as she had not been heard for some time, but like Peggy, she was an incredibly long term member of the cast. Now it remains to be seen how her death will be handled in the story. R.I.P. Paddy and thanks for all the years of pleasure listening to you.
Archerphile, yes you told us how you identified with her. I once saw her on TV and she said that Jill had taken over and she baked cakes instead of drinking gin & tonic. Goodbye Jill and thank you.
I was just coming on to say I heard this news & a short interview with Timothy Bentinck at about 8.50 on the today programme. Must confess that got more of a response from me than the death of Anne Widdecombe
I agree and was surprised that she is not on the BBC website nor mentioned in the news bulletins, apart from Today which I haven't heard. WH had a tribute to Anne Widdecombe but nothing about Paddy Greene, even in passing, though she was on the programme not long ago and the Archers often are.
I did not know of Paddy Green’s death although not surprising still a sad loss to us Archer followers. What day for upsetting news , Paddy passing and Anne W murdered 🙁
There have at last, been very many items on "Jill" and her passing. The one on the RT web page has a photo of Jill + David from early days. David looks so young with longish hair and a moustache! He is recognisable - just. I 😃
I felt the recent photos of Sophie Ma’am and actors in the recording studio weren’t very complimentary to those playing David and Brian. Good thing their voices haven’t changed with time.
Just listened to this weekends pod cast. Such a delightful listen. ARCHERPHILE - if you listen, see if you remember the name of the Brookfield youngster and the shenanigans that went on at Arkwright Hall. I’m pleased to say I did remember.
Funny isn’t it what sticks in our memories, and what doesn’t. Now you mention them I too remember Aunt Laura at Arkwright Hall and yes the dog lady who went on to the Laurels, I think. And Freddie Danny !
I listened this morning while doing the ironing, it was an enjoyable episode. The Arkwright hall events were before my time. I watched Gardeners' World yesterday to see the Badminton Flower Show broadcast. Interesting that Adam Frost is a listener to the programme. I spent some time yesterday sorting out my more than 300 photos of the flower show and noticed that in the TA garden bit they didn't show the table with Helen's cheeses on.
I think £35,000 was what the seed drill cost, so he’s given his five children its cash value divided equally between them. Presumably the drill is the Partnership’s biggest single asset and he is in effect personally buying it off them. And trying to keep Ian quiet, of course Well, that’s how I see it, but I tend to lose concentration with the financial details, especially in a heatwave! I’ll be interested in what you think.
I'm not sure but I thought the seed drill was something like £120,000, bought by Stella but it wasn't authorised by Brian as he was on holiday. She spoke to Adam for advice who intimated that as manager it was her decision. I might be very wrong on this, as usual! I can't work out what the seed drill had to do with the pay-out Brian made.
Thank you, yes it makes sense, but as Ian points out in not so many words it's just pocket money to keep them quiet. I'm also overheated but how much is the farm worth and Adam's years of input. Before I knew it was the drill I thought it was some kind of percentage of the overall assets. Still, Adam wants to put it behind him and Ian seems to agree. At least his words had some effect but no doubt he will make his feelings clear to Brian when he gets an opportunity. Brian will leave the land to someone, will it go to his biological children, remains to be seen.
I caught the end of Pick of the Week yesterday, presented by Charles Collingwood, with the Archers at 75 and Jazzer singing, some of you have probably heard it already.
I listened to Pick of the Week, but still have the R3 Music Night to listen to. I heard a bit of Jazzer singing on the podcast a few weeks ago, and just that snippet gave me goosebumps so am looking forwards to hearing it in full plus the rest of the concert.
Miriam, you're right about the purchase of the seed drill and Stella and Adam. I was also confused, but that's what they said and the synopsis confirmed it. Therefore Maryellen's explanation makes sense. Ian did say it cost more, but Adam mentioned depreciation. I still think it's a cheap trick.
WOW That's some depreciation as it's only 3 years old as purchased in I think 2023. I had no idea that such losses happened so quickly. I 've certainly learnt something so Thanks.
Yes, I’ve just read in the Telegraph that the drill cost £120, 000 new, so Brian’s knocked a lot off for depreciation unless as Ian said, the £7000 each was a fist instalment to keep them and Ian quiet for the time being
If I remember correctly, wasn't the full price £150,000 but Stella was on a time limited offer for the £120,000? I'm relying on my memory only which is certainly not as it was!
In my archive Archers listening, I'm now up to 2012. This is fascinating as it is only 14yrs ago. George is a youngster, Ruairi is now at boarding school, Adam + Brian are hardly talking due to the mega dairy plans, Keira is only just over a year old and Emma/Clarrie/Susan are already saying what a clever girl she is + full of character, and Tom has just got a new polytunnel, sounds familiar! So many seeds were being sown then which are now appearing again now. The parallels are fascinating. Oh and Tracy has just appeared full-time.
Sorry. I should have clarified that the inheritence mentioned was to do with the then Home Farm business partnership of Brian, Adam + Debbie all equal then, with Ruairi put into the will as Brianfs biological son. The farmhouse ie the family home was not included in this part of his will, so no idea what was in the will as to Jennifer. Kate + Alice had already been gifted their cottages by then.
I'm an Harrison fan and love that he's back. 😃 It will take time for Harrison to settle back into Ambridge after such a long time away, not only with it's unique village life, but also he + Fallon settling back into married life as a couple. There has to be a period of re-adjusting and re-uniting, which is not helped by starting his new job so soon.
ME must be able to answer the query I have. Is Harrison still a sargent or was he demoted to constable?
To add I'm looking forwards to Harrison being a Rural Police Officer with their new increased powers, just like the one who attended David's lamb massacre. I'm hoping he'll make a difference as to rural crime 🫰
Still sergeant rank as far as I can tell. His character description on the TA website calls him a police officer which covers all eventualities. I’m not a fan of his. I thought his behaviour post-accident was abominable and I have a horrible feeling we are going to get more .
There is no doubt whatsoever that Tom is a plonker……. But I felt for him tonight. It’s clear that he still has residual feelings for Kirsty, and he was hurt and confused that she had not confided in him about the baby.
I thought Kirsty was really unkind towards him this evening.
Poor Tom, beastly Kirsty! Just like she was to Roy after the miscarriage and was recently on the verge of with Rex. Bloggers blamed it on hormones. Kirsty brings all her woes on herself.
To be fair to Kirsty, she has so far told very few people - her best friend and her workmate, who perhaps needed to know. And Amber, but that was accidental. She did plan to tell Tom, in her own time, and presumably before making a public announcement in The Bull. It is not her fault that Helen and then Pat accidentally spilled the beans. Yes, Tom was hurt not to have been told sooner. And, yes, he did tell Kirsty promptly when Natasha was expecting. But perhaps he could have been a bit less blunt. How about, 'I'm sure Helen's told you already that she accidentally let slip your news. I'm really happy for you. Don't worry, I won't tell anyone else until you're ready for it to be public knowledge.' There again, this is the guy who didn't have the guts to tell his fiancee he had cold feet before the day of the wedding. (I don't think he even told her then, didn't he send a messenger to say the wedding was off?)
And this is the woman who was so unaware of her fiancé’s inner turmoil that she was more concerned with choice of wedding stationery than his mental agony. Also the woman who used Tom as a sperm donor without telling him. At least Erik got the option. I don’t admire Kirsty in every respect (though she was great to listen to in The Canterbury Tales) and I’m not confident that she is good parent material. Longing and love are not enough.
Why else was she playing RussIan roulette with no contraception if she hadn’t entertained the possibility of getting pregnant by Tom? Kirsty is misguided but not stupid! 🙂
It's very complex and sensitive, there are people who are definitely backing Kirsty. On the whole I agree with OWiaS and their conversation should have ended at the Green. Tom did tell Kirsty himself at the vestry and she wailed. It was supposed to be their third time "unlucky" as he had left her for Brenda and I don't remember before that. Now almost everybody knows, Jakob was first, but didn't tell Kate. I don't agree that Kirsty planned to get pregnant by Tom, it was a one off for old times sake and they both agreed it was nice.
Now what about Anne-Marie accusing Susan of wanting to make a profit from the wretched cot! And why did Susan keep it - status symbol? It said that she "makes a friend"!? The plot thickens...
I really enjoyed Susan and Amber's trip to the Felpersham Theatre Royal, until Anne-Marie's final appearance (hiss, boo!), as I have often wished theatregoing featured more in Ambridge's cultural life. Well done Susan for making it part of your family's growing up. Didn't Lynda once organise a coach trip to the theatre at Stratford upon Avon or is that wishful thinking? Otherwise, Ambridge's theatricals are homegrown.
Well apart from getting the weather wrong - at least it’s out in the open quite quickly after ‘his’ return. A right royal row, I’d say. Is this problem ever going to be resolved between Fallon and Harrison ?
The other thing that was glaringly obvious to me, was that while Harrison was far more explicit in his responses, about his job, to others, he was not so with his wife.
All I've seen + read today is hate towards Harrison as selfish, no feelings for Fallon and the marriage is doomed, so the split will happen soon etc etc. I'm not giving my thoughts, but I do wonder if TA is teasing us listeners as to this scenario and giving red herring signals, where in fact it might just turn out differently in some way..🤷♀️ But then this thought is just stupid, I admit + accept.
I agree with CC, you could be right, Miriam. Harrison hasn’t shown any sign of his previous bad behaviour that I’ve noticed, but I think he may be hiding something.
Tom has pinched the idea of a field kitchen from our veg box farmer. He set his up in 2021 in one of the big farm sheds and has won awards for it. We've had some lovely meals there. It's Groobarbs Field Kitchen in case anyone wants to Google it.
Riverford Organics have had a Field Kitchen for ages. We took the children years ago for a tour around the farm followed by a delicious meal. Sadly, Devon is too far away for us to be regular visitors. But if you're down that way, I'd recommend a visit.
We had a ‘ Long Table ‘ weekly in Stroud. And that was before the covid period. During that period they continued to cook and set up freezers in various local places. Our village had one in our church. All meals at a set price of a fiver. The long table was originally in the warehouse where we had a second hand furniture bank, then later moved to one of the decrepit old mills, restored by volunteers. The food was all surplus from various sources.
It’s certainly not a new idea, although Helen seemed to greet it as such.
I enjoyed yesterday’s episode with three characters I like showing why I like them (Tom, Helen and Susan being supportive) and one I might get to like (Anne-Marie). TA at its best even if not its most gripping!
Anne - Marie certainly showed a different side to her character yesterday.
Interesting tho’ that, like her daughter, she was introduced as an unpleasant person, then a few episodes later, showed signs of being a pleasant person after all. And with Amber and George’s mother, then with A- M and Susan.
I thought Anne-Marie was very unpleasant at the theatre meet-up, accusing Susan of stealing that cot to sell it. To me she's being devious + cunning, now using Susan seeing how close they were, to try to get to + influence Amber away from George + The Grundy's.
Kick off isn’t until 8.00 pm so there shouldn’t be a conflict. We’ve got a family get together in Sussex, departure will be scheduled so MrNiuts can watch the match, although he will no doubt set it to record so he can watch on time slip if the traffic is a problem
I have son from France here at the moment so we watched the third place playoff between France and England last night. I never normally watch football and have managed to ignore the entire World Cup, but thought I should watch last night. Must say it was very exciting with all those goals and sporting behaviour. Didn't know which team to support in view of family allegiances and would have been just as happy for either them to win. Shan't be watching final though with the argy-bargies playing (or cheating)
Listening to Tom talking to Kirsty and previously Helen doesn't give the impression that he feels he had been used for reproductive purposes and I'm not advocating for either of them because I don't have favourite characters. He told his daughters that they had a half-brother called Wren. These one off pregnancies have been used to cover different issues: Annette's prompted Helen to use a sperm donor, Chelsea's resulted in an abortion and Kirsty's in a stillbirth. Kate and Pip used contraception and became pregnant all the same. People have sex which may end up in a pregnancy, these things happen as Siobhan told Brian.
I don't know if anyone listens to the podcast, but this week's had two very interesting parts. A real life Rural Police Officer talking about the job and what the outcome might be for Lynda if Monty was responsible. At the very end there is a short sketch done by some cast members "in character", recorded at Clarence House at the 70th anniversary event, hosted by the then Duchess if Cornwall. It's never been heard before and is comical.
Am wondering just how committed Alice is to Rex moving in. She sent him packing back to his barge very easily, as she didn't want to be disturbed when he returned back late. This doesn't sound like a woman in love
Mmmm Interesting ! We don’t often hear of any Ambridge residents looking outside of the village for love interest, do we. Can anyone think of such a situation ?
I remember the days of the wine bar in Felpersham. At least we ventured outside of the village for some social activities. Rarely now, except shopping occasionally.
Hearing Linda ( briefly) this evening I was surprised that there was no mention of the possibility that her dog was the perpetrator of the attack on Brookfield sheep. She bought expensive dog food, so must feel very confident that he will not be taken from her.
I think Roy had a go at online dating and threw his net slightly wider than Ambridge. My thought was maybe Lynda was treating the condemned to a hearty breakfast, but I would be really shocked if she had allowed Monty out unsupervised, that just seems totally out of character. I s this the first time we have heard what breed Monty is?
When Lynda first got Monty from the rescue kennels and took him home, she told everyone it was a Doberman. I remember there was an uproar as the picture shown on a site, not so sure it wasn't a BBC page of some sort, was of a Doberman with cropped ears, which is illegal and not true to the breed..It was quickly changed.
Now that Bert is at the shop perhaps Carol will come in, or will they meet at the fete? I'm still hoping. Amber is from outside Ambridge, Vince, Dane. This new event barn at LL, rather sudden, don't you think?
I don’t remember any conversation between Elizabeth and Fallon about the cruck barn. Apparently it was just after Christmas ? Anyone else remember this conversation ?
As for Bert at the shop. I really didn’t like his appearance in person, as opposed to his being a long term silent character, but he is certainly growing on me now. I really enjoyed his double act with Susan last night. Perhaps he is about to become our replacement for Joe Grundy.
We didn’t hear that conversation. I guess listeners didn’t need to know about the barn till now, when it was introduced to us for the next development in the Lower Loxley and Fallon/Harrison sagas. I suppose the barn builds on the old+ Art Gallery concept as an exhibition and event space.
If Fallon accepts the job as Creative Manager(?) then this will affect Ruth and David with their events barn, as Fallon sometimes did the catering for some of the parties held there.
Yes, I wondered about the relative advantages/disadvantages of a long term let eg to Hannah and short term holiday lets. Dramatically the latter could bring more characters into the village.
I couldn't make out why Richard distanced himself from Carol. It seemed to be something to do with his stepfather leaving? but Carol and John stayed together until the latter's death. I used to be able to skip forward and back to rehear things but since Google altered things it isn't possible to do that now and have to relisten to the whole episode which is a nuisance.
There's an article called Carol and John Tregorran written by Keri Davies on the BBC Archers pages. What was being referred to is, I think, John was away on a lecture tour in America, Richard got into trouble pilfering at school, and Richard's behaviour only got improved when John returned 6 months later.
Bert told Susan that it was their mother Ivy(?) who brought them all up, so maybe he feels responsible that Clive turned out as he is, not having enough input from him.
I feel very sad that Fallon and Harrison are parting, but it was done with such grace and understanding. I think they still have deep feelings for each other but it is the baby thing coming between them and Harrison will forever blame George for the miscarriage (even though he actually saved Fallons life.) I hope we haven't heard the last of Harrison, especially in his new role. We have a field full of hares opposite us (too many to count sometimes) and dread another gang of hare coarsers turning up as they have done in the past. Perhaps he will find another partner more interested in parenthood - anyone suitable in the village at the moment?
As a rural police officer Harrison is supposed to stay, especially with the hare coursing so much in the news, is that why they brought him back, after the dog attack as well? Stay but where? Presumably at Woodbine to start with. Fallon is also moving on, so Jolene will be affected by both her leaving and the marriage break up. As to a potential partner, there's Hannah who's single and childless.
I feel sorry for any future partner of Harrison. They will realise he still loves Fallon and then wonder if he just chose them because he wanted a child.
I read an interview with James Cartwight after he left Coronation Street. In it he confirmed that he was returning to The Archers for awhile before in the autumn, being on-stage in a play somewhere. This led me to believe that he'd be leaving Anbridge, but obviously don't know. This would be a shame, as I'd like to hear the work of the Rural Police now and again, which for example, could easily be done in conversations over a drink in The Bull.
I’m glad Fallon and Harrison have arrived at the solution which allows her to stay true to herself and not feel under pressure to have children purely for Harrison’s sake. The instinct not to have children is a very real thing. George not only saved Fallon’s life, but unknowingly saved the life she wanted to have. (That’s assuming the foetus died as a result of George’s accident, as Harrison claims, although the medics were. unable to determine the cause.)6
If Harrison and Fallon still love each other as proclaimed then they could try counselling be it separately and or together just to know for sure there is no way back for them because at the moment I feel only Fallon really knows the real cause and Harrison cannot bring himself to face it ie babies and the difficulty for him imo is that although he wants them he wants children to be with the woman he loves and not just anyone. Fallon felt rejected when her dad went off when she was young so that maybe why she does not want to risk having her own family. Other than that she has just never wanted a family and it was a case of the pair of them marrying without ever discussing such an important subject.
We don’t know what the plan ahead with these two is. It might include counselling. If Jolene gets to understand the ‘problem ‘ I wouldn’t be surprised at her suggesting such a way forward. Although of course, it might confirm their decision.
My comment is notwithstanding your reasoning Lady R. I think you have illustrated the nub of the situation. Fallons certainty, and Harrison’s inability to counter that certainty.
I was just about to post the same... I just hope Jolene + Kenton don't make a big issue about it, as it won't help Fallon at all. IMO she made the right decision to go to Lynda's, as Lynda is empathetic and knew about Fallon's feelings.
Does Joy still exist? We haven't heard from her for ages! And as far as I can recall, she and Mick were pretty happy together. Or was there a major falling out I've forgotten about?
The last we heard from Joy + Mick was in January after bottlegate, when they seemed to have differing versions of NYE. Mick was one of my very strong suspects! 😆
Was that a red flag from Fallon, asking Chris to contact Harrison, fearing that he ‘might go into himself’ ? Harrison might be the last person one might consider harming himself, but we never know.
I don't think so. To my mind, he'll throw himself into his new job but will keep himself to himself so to avoid awkward questions and explanations. This is the same as Fallon staying with Lynda and she can hide in the kitchen at The Bull until she leaves. Fallon to move to Rex's boat??
My concern is that both Fallon + Harrison will isolate themselves from their friends which are joint friends, as well as each other. Not a good situation.
and she had a camper van at one time, whether that was the same as the van, not sure, as it was a few years later + where so I believe she + Jazzer got it together. This was on a holiday
What an interesting episode hearing about the similarities of both couples, as to why splitting up is/was the only option. Martha must be a very resilient young girl, as to the many places she lives + sleeps Now she's off for a sleepover with Lottie + Madison with her Dad.
I wonder if in the near future she reacts in some way, which will be wrongly attributed to FAS? Thinking aloud only..😒
Laughing out loud at Bert this evening. Then poor Fallon, telling her mum she is giving in her notice, or trying to, while Jolene perpetually interrupts with her own agenda at every moment, pause in Fallons flow or not !
Oh Chris ! A step too far there I’m afraid. Think Lottie might be putting on her running shoes.
Lottie is happy to remain friends with benefits being self aware that Chris is kidding himself that her wants to be with anyone other than Alice and visa versa Alice with Rex?
I think you might have something there Lady R. All these changes of partner are mixing things up a bit in Ambridge. As for Jolene not letting Fallon get a word in edgeways, isn't that always the case in TA? For years it has survived on half heard messages, interrupted phone calls and semi-overheard and misunderstood gossip.
Yes, that is their preferred technique, to wind us up when we know what's going to happen. Very rarely somebody manages to blurt it out before they are interrupted.
I was surprised Susan didn't stand up to him and turned on Christopher instead, respect for the elders taken too far. It was amusing when he was speaking his mind but now it's downright insulting.
Also, Alice going to see Chris - it looks like they both need reassurance that they've done the right thing in moving on, but not quite able to let go, they're teasing us.
I think Susan will regret turning on Chris. My guess is that he won't allow Martha to go there, or be looked after by Susan, while Bert is staying there.
I realise that both Carol + Bert became vocal again to highlight caring for an elderly relative or person. That's been highlighted well, so enough us enough. I just can't understand why this SL is still being featured so strongly. There's so much more I'd prefer to hear - even if it is the village fete being organised and who will be doing what. On that note, can anyone tell me exactly where the Jubilee field is? To me it was the land between the village shop and the AM as donated by Home Farm. It seems though that it's across the AM. Any ideas anyone as I can't work it out from my map of Ambridge
Alice / Chris & Fallon / Harrison what is the matter with you all 😡 for goodness sake just sort your bl**dy selves out and get on with life. After all none of you are in your 20’s anymore well into your 40’s I imagine so just behave like mature adults because you are getting on my wick!!!!
I’m finding all the couple’s stuff fairly boring, ditto the fete charging issue, but I like the verbal wit of Bert and Carol, with Bert providing his own comic relief to the eldercare issue he is part of. As Susan pointed out, his rough bringing and lack of social and economic opportunity explains a lot......
I have to disagree. No matter what a person's background is, it's not an excuse for rudeness, bad manners and slovenliness, be it with family or others.
I used the word explains not excuses. Whether one thinks a poor social background excuses later behaviour or not very often depends on one’s own background. Middle class listeners who belittle Susan for trying to rise above the social background she was born into, and move into theirs, make me III. I won’t go on.
Afraid I have to disagree totally with Maryellen I have heard more than enough from disgusting old Bert and his constant demands and complaints. As for Carol, I've been disappointed with her portrayal as an aging woman. I don't remember her being so difficult, rude and ungrateful as a young woman. She was someone I admired and enjoyed listening to, especially her connection with John Tregorran. But I am enjoying the interplay between couples, Fallon and Harrison particularly. The fete charging issue, I couldn't care less about. We used to pay entrance fee to our village fete to cover the cost of hiring the field.
I think the issue of tickets for the fete is that, as someone said to Lynda, it's a village event for all the village, not a fund raising event for the church.
Well, that's true. I assume the use of jubilee field is free. Perhaps there should be no entrance fee but collecting boxes for those who may wish to make a donation. As you say this is a village event, not a church one. We have a fete in our village each summer which is specifically to raise funds for the church so people go, or dont go, according to what they support
I agree with ARCHERPHILE entirely regarding her latest post. Although I still find Bert amusing though also very rude. But i remember Carole and John Tregorran as my favourite characters decades ago, and find her, Carole, rather distasteful now.
I also find the interplay twixt Fallon and Harrison touching and reminiscent of my own situation when my husband and I took six months to separate, in our case to shield our daughters from trauma. Equally, I appreciate the writing of the dance between Chris and Alice, each of them being careful to not hurt the other.
I applaud the writing team in respect of both these couples, in imposing upon both such adult behaviour, and in stark contrast to Bert Horrobin.
Susan said that Christopher should apologise to Bert, why? He criticised his parenting, was rude about Alice and gave Martha beer! Bert is ungrateful to both his daughters, but will hear nothing said against Clive who took his money and neglected him for days. As I said he probably feels responsible for the way he turned out as it was his wife who was left to bring up the children. Bert's difficult childhood/background does not justify his behaviour now. As for Carol she idolises her deceased son Richard because there was some problem there for which she feels responsible. To start with she was very dismissive towards Anna and ungrateful for all her efforts. At least they made their peace.
I still don't understand why us listeners are having to endure both Bert's + Carol's backgrounds and their children. There are children in Ambridge I'd much rather hear about, namely Henry, Jack, the continuing story of Keira, and what about Poppy? I can't remember the last time she got a mention. I'm also missing Esme + Meadow Farm. I realise that the actors are only in TA for short periods at a time, but some are just absent far too long, at the expense of Bert + Carol. Rant Over! 🫣
BasiaJuly 1, 2026 at 8:50 AM
ReplyDeleteEd won't show his texels because Brian says no and Keira won't step in - they'll have to think of some other solution.
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maryellenJuly 1, 2026 at 12:07 PM
Let’s hope Keira can be persuaded to change her mind and boost her self belief.
MiriamJuly 1, 2026 at 5:03 PM
How sad Brian has quashed Ed's chance at the show with his texels.
Ed must also have had someone else to step in to drive the trailer and help Keira- Eddie?
Did think of George, but he'd be too busy with the media side of things and also still can't drive.
Cheshire CheeseJuly 1, 2026 at 6:23 PM
ReplyDeleteTypical of Brian to say he'll be flexible and then refuse to be flexible.
AmbridgesMrsPJuly 1, 2026 at 6:28 PM
Can’t remember who said it, but correct IMO, Ambers father is a replacement for Matt Crawford.
Out to have his way with every trick in the book.
Blatantly squashing George with his own agenda and eventually manoeuvring George around to his argument.
I have accepted that as the older generation of actors fades away new blood is required in Ambridge, and so far I have accepted those new characters, but for a reason I cannot myself understand, I have not taken to Ambers parents at all, right from the beginning, and I really resent them becoming part of TA.
And now to cap it all, we are told they are from Lewisham.
The Borough of Lewisham, where I grew up ( as did the awful Rachel Reeves ) and a place that i will forever disdain.
Apologies for my rant.
Wonder if the New Forest County Show is going ahead this year? And will it be too hot to go. Strange they've not had heatwaves in Ambridge!
ReplyDeleteMiriamJuly 1, 2026 at 6:54 PM
ReplyDeleteBill reminds me more of Vince, not Matt.
Matt was extremely scheming + devious at the expense of others, remember Christine losing her life savings,which doesn't sound like Bill at all.
I did love Tiger though!
AmbridgesMrsPJuly 1, 2026 at 10:25 PM
I meant in the way of scheming and manipulating Miriam.
Not that he is dishonest.
Ed. I do hope he doesn't spy for + tittle-tattle to Martyn, as it won't be worth it.
ReplyDeleteHe's already in a difficult position with Brian, as he thinks he's just a contract worker, now to find he's supposedly Brian's deputy without the contract + pay!
I do worry about Ed.
He's caught between a rock and a hard place.
DeleteThe Family Grundy cot..
ReplyDeleteI can think of 3 generations it's been used for, and would love a 4th one to also use it in a few months time.
Just call me sentimental..
Tradition means much more than fancy gimmicky alternatives, and as Neil sad so wisely - All a baby needs is love. 🥰
I find impossible to take Martyn Gibson seriously these days. He sounds to me as if he’s permanently stuck in one of those comic relief episodes we get as an antidote to the over-serious ones, often associated with Eddie Grundy in. the past.I don’t if it’s poor editing, scripting or acting - or just me.
ReplyDeleteI’ve never been able to take Martin Gibson seriously.
DeleteHe has always seemed to me to be a ‘ fill in ‘, used to fill in a gap in the flow of life in Ambridge.
Remember how awful Martyn Gibson was to Kathy at the Golf Club, so she resigned +-left her job, hardly a fill-in part then.
DeleteHowever he knows Brian well, having been together on the BL board for very many years, my guess is at least 15yrs if not a lot more.
If anyone knows Brian + Adam well, then it's him as he has seen many Adam/Brian clashes before, such as at the Mega Dairy set-up.
Martyn to me is the one person who could help sort Brian + the Home Farm situation out.
OK - there have been fun interludes with Martyn - the mobile sauna, taking dating tips from Chelsea + Zainab but he did show a different side of him with them.
I do think though, he's not just a fill in character, but one who can perhaps make a difference, be it only in the short-terrn.
I take your point Miriam, but he seems to have passed over my consciousness.
DeleteTo my mind when he appears, it is to make a difference in some way, be it good or bad.
DeleteJust my thought!
I agree, Miriam, that Martyn Gibson’s role as a leading local businessman is an influential one, but there seems a discrepancy between the role and the man who to me always sounds like a buffoon, not just when he is being one. The actor’s vocal style is partly to blame. I think it dates back to TA’s ill-judged spoof on A Christmas Carol.
DeleteThank you Maryellen, you’ve given me the words I could not find for myself on this occasion.
DeleteIt is the actors vocal style that for me places him in a derisory position, leaving me to dismiss him entirely.
It makes him a lightweight whom I cannot take seriously.
Yes, I agree with all three of you above, but since Martyn's wife left him, he's undergone a change of character together with his clothes style, romping on Tracy's sofa and I can't take him seriously either.
Delete"Martyn" is great as Maurice in the Charles Paris stories - now that characterc is a buffoon! 😁
DeletePut it like this, I'd rather have Martyn than Brian, though Ed might feel differently at the moment.
DeleteListening to the Omnibus today I was confused - are Chris and Lottie a couple? Didn't realise they even knew each other.
ReplyDeleteAnd, I didn't realise Chris and Martha are still living with Fallon and will have to move when whatsisname comes home. (Thanks to dying in Coronation Street!) Surely the flat above the shop must be repaired by now?
Yes Archerphile, Chris and Lottie have been "an item" for a while now and we got rather a lot of them recently. I can't remember when she became a receptionist at the surgery, but never mind. Her daughter is called Madison and you were thinking of Harrison coming back.
DeleteI always enjoy the omnibus and play a game, as to spot what has been cut out from the nightly episodes.
DeleteToday's was so obvious - Helen going off to sort out the SUV driver parking outside, so Kirstu hung the wallpaper upside down. Although this wasn't anything to do with the current S/L, it was never the less, one of the more comedic scenes.
28th to the 30TH of July Archerphile ⭐️‼️ The New Forest County Show, as for the weather who knows probably too hot or if not too wet but I don’t think that is likely just yet 🙃
ReplyDeleteThanks Lady R. Don't think I'll be going this year, whatever the weather!
DeleteSeems like my question as to when Chris will be moving back into the flat above the shop was answered tonight! And, Basia, I had completely missed out onLottie/Chris. I only knew she worked at the surgery. Their relationship just passed me by!!
ReplyDeleteThey got together via a dating app.
DeleteArcherphile, I'm not surprised because it was something like they both had a date and it was left to us to work out with whom.
DeleteAs far as I remember they had the first date, realised who each other were and Chris told Fallon, they might meet up again.
DeleteIt's all been behind the scenes really, until recently.
I still want Chris + Alice to re-unite - if only dreams came true said wistfully..
I wonder if things will change, when Chris + Martha finally get their flat back...🤔
DeleteI feel the family dynamics are bound to change when Martha starts doing things with Chris plus Lottie in Alice’s place, also Alice plus Rex in Chris’s place though this doesn’t seem to be happening. Maybe Martha will take it all in her stride and perhaps play it for al it’s worth, or. maybe she with become confused and unsettled with all that brings. Any child psychologists around?
DeleteNo, not a child psychologist, but a displaced mother, when the next wife became established, and one child in particular wanted to be with her daddy and would pay any price to do so.
DeleteI don’t think she had or has any confusion over her choice, but her sister was quite definitely challenged with the loyalty that became a struggle for her.
And the displaced wife still feels the consequences of the loss of much of her daughter’s childhood’s.
So yes Maryellen, I agree, the family dynamics may well change.
There is something brewing in the George / Amber camp…. Has George been caught on video driving the car(s) or is Amber about to need an emergency trip to the hospital 🤔
ReplyDeleteAmber is definitely wearing the trousers in this relationship, and they are not even married yet !
ReplyDeleteBy all means give back the cot, but why involve Susan, they don't know each other, what's the purpose?
ReplyDeleteSusan is the baby’s great grandmother, the Gordon’s are its grandparents, so they all belong to its extended family. As always, lovely Susan is doing her best. to be helpful. She is Ambridge’s least self centred resident.
DeletePS. It’s Apple that’s fixated on the apostrophe ‘s’, not me!
DeleteSusan just wants to be nosy + see where they live along with a chance to mix with them, in the same way she was with Brian + Jennifer when Alice + Chris got married. I can just hear her saying to them - well we are almost family...😆
DeleteYes, Miriam, I think she'll want to make the point that - we are family now. Let's see whether the outcome will be positive or will create a further rift, I'm prepared for a surprise.
DeleteI don’t think we have to take such a negative view of Susan. There’s a lot to admire in her. Yes, she may have been curious to see what the new additions to the Grundy/Carter clan were like - who wouldn’t be? All of us, for a start. But her primary motive was.to help Amber in any way she could. Satisfying her natural curiosity would be a bonus. Neil lacks curiosity as well as imagination
DeleteI certainly didn't think my view and comment was negative. It was just an observation based on Susan's previous ideas of joining those in other circles.
DeleteMiriam and BASIA - yes, precisely the point I took.
ReplyDeleteSusan HAS to be involved, with the intention of heightening her own presence within the family hierarchy.
That is Number one !
I can imagine Neil thinking….. oh dear, here we go again…… but I do love her.
Well that was a surprise, and a well kept secret.
ReplyDeleteWell done TA !
Well done Tony and Bridge Farm!
ReplyDeleteI think Pat and Tony should have shared the award.
DeleteI agree, yes, of course and Tony said so himself, but it's farmer of the year, protocol?
DeleteAh Sophie Wessex what a lovely surprised so genuine and unaffected I thought she did very well ⭐️
ReplyDeleteWhen I read the tag line I thought it might be Jeremy Clarkson 🙃
Surprise!
ReplyDeleteLovely to hear that the special guest was Sophie Wessex. I like the way that she just gets on with job without any drama.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of Bridge Farm, we survived the very hot weather at the Badminton flower show and were not disappointed by the TA 75th anniversary garden. Jo Thompson did her usual good job and there were some nice little touches. The goats weren't there because of the high temperature which I expected. It was an enjoyable day for us with the bonus of being able to visit family.
Hopefully the garden will be shown on tomorrow's Gardener's World which comes from the show.
There's an interesting piece with photos, about the Duchess of Edinburgh doing the recording, on the BBC news website page, in case anyone is interested.
ReplyDeleteSad, sad news. Just heard of the death of Paddy Green in the 8am news. The character I most admired and felt most like me for so many years.
ReplyDeleteWe had all thought she must be unwell as she had not been heard for some time, but like Peggy, she was an incredibly long term member of the cast.
Now it remains to be seen how her death will be handled in the story.
R.I.P. Paddy and thanks for all the years of pleasure listening to you.
Archerphile, yes you told us how you identified with her.
DeleteI once saw her on TV and she said that Jill had taken over and she baked cakes instead of drinking gin & tonic.
Goodbye Jill and thank you.
I was just coming on to say I heard this news & a short interview with Timothy Bentinck at about 8.50 on the today programme. Must confess that got more of a response from me than the death of Anne Widdecombe
ReplyDeleteI thought the same KP.
DeleteI agree and was surprised that she is not on the BBC website nor mentioned in the news bulletins, apart from Today which I haven't heard.
DeleteWH had a tribute to Anne Widdecombe but nothing about Paddy Greene, even in passing, though she was on the programme not long ago and the Archers often are.
I did not know of Paddy Green’s death although not surprising still a sad loss to us Archer followers. What day for upsetting news , Paddy passing and Anne W
Deletemurdered 🙁
There is a half-page item on Patricia Greene on page 23 of this Saturday’s Guardian with a larger version of the publicity photo on the TA website.
DeleteThere have at last, been very many items on "Jill" and her passing.
DeleteThe one on the RT web page has a photo of Jill + David from early days. David looks so young with longish hair and a moustache! He is recognisable - just. I 😃
I felt the recent photos of Sophie Ma’am and actors in the recording studio weren’t very complimentary to those playing David and Brian. Good thing their voices haven’t changed with time.
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DeleteDoes Brian know that George laughed off Ruairi's confession or did he only tell Lilian?
ReplyDeleteYes, Susan, I want the doorbell to stay too, it's almost a signature tune!
Hearing the shop bell is a great way of immediately knowing where they are.
DeleteJust listened to this weekends pod cast.
ReplyDeleteSuch a delightful listen.
ARCHERPHILE - if you listen, see if you remember the name of the Brookfield youngster and the shenanigans that went on at Arkwright Hall.
I’m pleased to say I did remember.
Yes, I did remember that lad, but not the goings on at Arkwright Hall. That place mainly reminds me of Aunt Laura and 'the dog lady'.
DeleteFunny isn’t it what sticks in our memories, and what doesn’t.
DeleteNow you mention them I too remember Aunt Laura at Arkwright Hall and yes the dog lady who went on to the Laurels, I think.
And Freddie Danny !
Freddie Danby
DeleteI listened this morning while doing the ironing, it was an enjoyable episode. The Arkwright hall events were before my time.
ReplyDeleteI watched Gardeners' World yesterday to see the Badminton Flower Show broadcast. Interesting that Adam Frost is a listener to the programme. I spent some time yesterday sorting out my more than 300 photos of the flower show and noticed that in the TA garden bit they didn't show the table with Helen's cheeses on.
Is Ian going to carry on blackmailing Brian, I wonder?
ReplyDeleteMaryellen, could you or someone explain to me what the payment has to do with the seed drill, is it the benefits from its use?
DeleteI think £35,000 was what the seed drill cost, so he’s given his five children its cash value divided equally between them. Presumably the drill is the Partnership’s biggest single asset and he is in effect personally buying it off them. And trying to keep Ian quiet, of course
DeleteWell, that’s how I see it, but I tend to lose concentration with the financial details, especially in a heatwave! I’ll be interested in what you think.
I'm not sure but I thought the seed drill was something like £120,000, bought by Stella but it wasn't authorised by Brian as he was on holiday. She spoke to Adam for advice who intimated that as manager it was her decision. I might be very wrong on this, as usual!
DeleteI can't work out what the seed drill had to do with the pay-out Brian made.
Thank you, yes it makes sense, but as Ian points out in not so many words it's just pocket money to keep them quiet. I'm also overheated but how much is the farm worth and Adam's years of input. Before I knew it was the drill I thought it was some kind of percentage of the overall assets. Still, Adam wants to put it behind him and Ian seems to agree. At least his words had some effect but no doubt he will make his feelings clear to Brian when he gets an opportunity. Brian will leave the land to someone, will it go to his biological children, remains to be seen.
DeleteI caught the end of Pick of the Week yesterday, presented by Charles Collingwood, with the Archers at 75 and Jazzer singing, some of you have probably heard it already.
I listened to Pick of the Week, but still have the R3 Music Night to listen to.
DeleteI heard a bit of Jazzer singing on the podcast a few weeks ago, and just that snippet gave me goosebumps so am looking forwards to hearing it in full plus the rest of the concert.
Miriam, you're right about the purchase of the seed drill and Stella and Adam.
DeleteI was also confused, but that's what they said and the synopsis confirmed it.
Therefore Maryellen's explanation makes sense.
Ian did say it cost more, but Adam mentioned depreciation.
I still think it's a cheap trick.
WOW That's some depreciation as it's only 3 years old as purchased in I think 2023. I had no idea that such losses happened so quickly. I 've certainly learnt something so Thanks.
DeleteME certainly has a massive amount of TA knowledge, far better than mine ever will be.
DeleteYes, I’ve just read in the Telegraph that the drill cost £120, 000 new, so Brian’s knocked a lot off for depreciation unless as Ian said, the £7000 each was a fist instalment to keep them and Ian quiet for the time being
DeleteIf I remember correctly, wasn't the full price £150,000 but Stella was on a time limited offer for the £120,000?
DeleteI'm relying on my memory only which is certainly not as it was!
Better than mine, Miriam!
DeleteIn my archive Archers listening, I'm now up to 2012. This is fascinating as it is only 14yrs ago. George is a youngster, Ruairi is now at boarding school, Adam + Brian are hardly talking due to the mega dairy plans, Keira is only just over a year old and Emma/Clarrie/Susan are already saying what a clever girl she is + full of character, and Tom has just got a new polytunnel, sounds familiar!
ReplyDeleteSo many seeds were being sown then which are now appearing again now.
The parallels are fascinating.
Oh and Tracy has just appeared full-time.
Also Brian, Adam + Debbie are still joint directors of Home Farm with Adam, Debbie + Ruairi in Brian's will to inherit equally.
DeleteJust out of interest, what did he leave to his wife?
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DeleteSorry. I should have clarified that the inheritence mentioned was to do with the then Home Farm business partnership of Brian, Adam + Debbie all equal then, with Ruairi put into the will as Brianfs biological son.
DeleteThe farmhouse ie the family home was not included in this part of his will, so no idea what was in the will as to Jennifer. Kate + Alice had already been gifted their cottages by then.
On that note, I'll disappear + shut up! 😵
DeleteBroken bottle - George killed my baby and he's having one himself - lack of communication - anything else? Harrison's only been back a few hours.
ReplyDeleteSuccinctly put BASIA !
DeleteGo away, Harrison, before you do any more damage.
DeleteI'm an Harrison fan and love that he's back. 😃
DeleteIt will take time for Harrison to settle back into Ambridge after such a long time away, not only with it's unique village life, but also he + Fallon settling back into married life as a couple.
There has to be a period of re-adjusting and re-uniting, which is not helped by starting his new job so soon.
ME must be able to answer the query I have. Is Harrison still a sargent or was he demoted to constable?
Correction for my spelling:-
DeleteI meant is Harrison still a police sergeant?
To add I'm looking forwards to Harrison being a Rural Police Officer with their new increased powers, just like the one who attended David's lamb massacre.
DeleteI'm hoping he'll make a difference as to rural crime 🫰
Still sergeant rank as far as I can tell. His character description on the TA website calls him a police officer which covers all eventualities. I’m not a fan of his. I thought his behaviour post-accident was abominable and I have a horrible feeling we are going to get more .
DeleteIsn't Amber's Mum delightful?!?!
ReplyDeleteShe does it well, doesn’t she.
DeleteFirst class bitch !
On this occasion I thought Kirsty got it wrong.
ReplyDeleteThere is no doubt whatsoever that Tom is a plonker…….
But I felt for him tonight.
It’s clear that he still has residual feelings for Kirsty, and he was hurt and confused that she had not confided in him about the baby.
I thought Kirsty was really unkind towards him this evening.
Poor Tom, beastly Kirsty! Just like she was to Roy after the miscarriage and was recently on the verge of with Rex. Bloggers blamed it on hormones. Kirsty brings all her woes on herself.
ReplyDeleteTo be fair to Kirsty, she has so far told very few people - her best friend and her workmate, who perhaps needed to know. And Amber, but that was accidental.
DeleteShe did plan to tell Tom, in her own time, and presumably before making a public announcement in The Bull. It is not her fault that Helen and then Pat accidentally spilled the beans.
Yes, Tom was hurt not to have been told sooner. And, yes, he did tell Kirsty promptly when Natasha was expecting. But perhaps he could have been a bit less blunt. How about, 'I'm sure Helen's told you already that she accidentally let slip your news. I'm really happy for you. Don't worry, I won't tell anyone else until you're ready for it to be public knowledge.'
There again, this is the guy who didn't have the guts to tell his fiancee he had cold feet before the day of the wedding. (I don't think he even told her then, didn't he send a messenger to say the wedding was off?)
And this is the woman who was so unaware of her fiancé’s inner turmoil that she was more concerned with choice of wedding stationery than his mental agony. Also the woman who used Tom as a sperm donor without telling him. At least Erik got the option. I don’t admire Kirsty in every respect (though she was great to listen to in The Canterbury Tales) and I’m not confident that she is good parent material. Longing and love are not enough.
DeleteWhy else was she playing RussIan roulette with no contraception if she hadn’t entertained the possibility of getting pregnant by Tom? Kirsty is misguided but not stupid! 🙂
DeleteTakes two to tango!
DeleteYes, but in this case only one of them knew the score.
DeleteIt's very complex and sensitive, there are people who are definitely backing Kirsty.
ReplyDeleteOn the whole I agree with OWiaS and their conversation should have ended at the Green.
Tom did tell Kirsty himself at the vestry and she wailed. It was supposed to be their third time "unlucky" as he had left her for Brenda and I don't remember before that.
Now almost everybody knows, Jakob was first, but didn't tell Kate.
I don't agree that Kirsty planned to get pregnant by Tom, it was a one off for old times sake and they both agreed it was nice.
Now what about Anne-Marie accusing Susan of wanting to make a profit from the wretched cot!
ReplyDeleteAnd why did Susan keep it - status symbol?
It said that she "makes a friend"!?
The plot thickens...
I really enjoyed Susan and Amber's trip to the Felpersham Theatre Royal, until Anne-Marie's final appearance (hiss, boo!), as I have often wished theatregoing featured more in Ambridge's cultural life. Well done Susan for making it part of your family's growing up. Didn't Lynda once organise a coach trip to the theatre at Stratford upon Avon or is that wishful thinking? Otherwise, Ambridge's theatricals are homegrown.
ReplyDeleteWell apart from getting the weather wrong - at least it’s out in the open quite quickly after ‘his’ return.
ReplyDeleteA right royal row, I’d say.
Is this problem ever going to be resolved between Fallon and Harrison ?
The other thing that was glaringly obvious to me, was that while Harrison was far more explicit in his responses, about his job, to others, he was not so with his wife.
All I've seen + read today is hate towards Harrison as selfish, no feelings for Fallon and the marriage is doomed, so the split will happen soon etc etc.
ReplyDeleteI'm not giving my thoughts, but I do wonder if TA is teasing us listeners as to this scenario and giving red herring signals, where in fact it might just turn out differently in some way..🤷♀️
But then this thought is just stupid, I admit + accept.
Not at all stupid Miriam, it wouldn't be the first time that the SWs have misled us.
DeleteI agree with CC, you could be right, Miriam. Harrison hasn’t shown any sign of his previous bad behaviour that I’ve noticed, but I think he may be hiding something.
DeleteTom has pinched the idea of a field kitchen from our veg box farmer. He set his up in 2021 in one of the big farm sheds and has won awards for it. We've had some lovely meals there. It's Groobarbs Field Kitchen in case anyone wants to Google it.
ReplyDeleteRiverford Organics have had a Field Kitchen for ages. We took the children years ago for a tour around the farm followed by a delicious meal. Sadly, Devon is too far away for us to be regular visitors. But if you're down that way, I'd recommend a visit.
DeleteWe had a ‘ Long Table ‘ weekly in Stroud. And that was before the covid period.
DeleteDuring that period they continued to cook and set up freezers in various local places. Our village had one in our church.
All meals at a set price of a fiver.
The long table was originally in the warehouse where we had a second hand furniture bank, then later moved to one of the decrepit old mills, restored by volunteers. The food was all surplus from various sources.
It’s certainly not a new idea, although Helen seemed to greet it as such.
I'm sure a personalised, hand-drawn picture book for the new baby would be a far more treasured gift than an OTT cot.
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed yesterday’s episode with three characters I like showing why I like them (Tom, Helen and Susan being supportive) and one I might get to like (Anne-Marie). TA at its best even if not its most gripping!
ReplyDeleteAnne - Marie certainly showed a different side to her character yesterday.
ReplyDeleteInteresting tho’ that, like her daughter, she was introduced as an unpleasant person, then a few episodes later, showed signs of being a pleasant person after all.
And with Amber and George’s mother, then with A- M and Susan.
I thought Anne-Marie was very unpleasant at the theatre meet-up, accusing Susan of stealing that cot to sell it.
DeleteTo me she's being devious + cunning, now using Susan seeing how close they were, to try to get to + influence Amber away from George + The Grundy's.
To add + to clarify - A-M sees another + easier way, to get to know what abd how, Amber + George are doing.
DeleteIf Monty had attacked the sheep, surely he would have come home in a right state. I can't believe Lynda wouldn't have noticed.
ReplyDeleteOh dear, World Cup final versus The Archers at 7pm tonight. It will have to be the football with fingers crossed for Spain to win!
ReplyDeleteKick off isn’t until 8.00 pm so there shouldn’t be a conflict. We’ve got a family get together in Sussex, departure will be scheduled so MrNiuts can watch the match, although he will no doubt set it to record so he can watch on time slip if the traffic is a problem
DeletePhew! Thanks, KPnuts. I gather there’ll be a lot of additional razzmatazz, which I’m happy to miss.
DeleteI have son from France here at the moment so we watched the third place playoff between France and England last night. I never normally watch football and have managed to ignore the entire World Cup, but thought I should watch last night. Must say it was very exciting with all those goals and sporting behaviour. Didn't know which team to support in view of family allegiances and would have been just as happy for either them to win. Shan't be watching final though with the argy-bargies playing (or cheating)
DeleteListening to Tom talking to Kirsty and previously Helen doesn't give the impression that he feels he had been used for reproductive purposes and I'm not advocating for either of them because I don't have favourite characters. He told his daughters that they had a half-brother called Wren.
ReplyDeleteThese one off pregnancies have been used to cover different issues: Annette's prompted Helen to use a sperm donor, Chelsea's resulted in an abortion and Kirsty's in a stillbirth.
Kate and Pip used contraception and became pregnant all the same.
People have sex which may end up in a pregnancy, these things happen as Siobhan told Brian.
I don't know if anyone listens to the podcast, but this week's had two very interesting parts.
ReplyDeleteA real life Rural Police Officer talking about the job and what the outcome might be for Lynda if Monty was responsible.
At the very end there is a short sketch done by some cast members "in character", recorded at Clarence House at the 70th anniversary event, hosted by the then Duchess if Cornwall. It's never been heard before and is comical.
I listen regularly to the podcast Miriam, and yes, I agree, that rural crime officer was very interesting.
DeleteAm wondering just how committed Alice is to Rex moving in. She sent him packing back to his barge very easily, as she didn't want to be disturbed when he returned back late.
ReplyDeleteThis doesn't sound like a woman in love
I don’t think Alice and Rex are deeply in love. It’s more like a marriage of convenience. What other options have they got in Ambridge?
DeleteMmmm
DeleteInteresting !
We don’t often hear of any Ambridge residents looking outside of the village for love interest, do we.
Can anyone think of such a situation ?
I remember the days of the wine bar in Felpersham. At least we ventured outside of the village for some social activities.
Rarely now, except shopping occasionally.
Hearing Linda ( briefly) this evening I was surprised that there was no mention of the possibility that her dog was the perpetrator of the attack on Brookfield sheep.
She bought expensive dog food, so must feel very confident that he will not be taken from her.
I think Roy had a go at online dating and threw his net slightly wider than Ambridge.
DeleteMy thought was maybe Lynda was treating the condemned to a hearty breakfast, but I would be really shocked if she had allowed Monty out unsupervised, that just seems totally out of character. I s this the first time we have heard what breed Monty is?
Chris went on a dating app and matched with someone in Ambridge.
DeleteIf I remember rightly, Roy ended up with Tracy (pre-Jazzer) who described him as Mr Boring of Borsetshire.
DeleteYes, but there was also some very tall woman and speculation that she might be trans, though not in the end, they put up a tent? Roy and tents...
DeleteWhen Lynda first got Monty from the rescue kennels and took him home, she told everyone it was a Doberman. I remember there was an uproar as the picture shown on a site, not so sure it wasn't a BBC page of some sort, was of a Doberman with cropped ears, which is illegal and not true to the breed..It was quickly changed.
DeleteNow that Bert is at the shop perhaps Carol will come in, or will they meet at the fete?
ReplyDeleteI'm still hoping.
Amber is from outside Ambridge, Vince, Dane.
This new event barn at LL, rather sudden, don't you think?
I don’t remember any conversation between Elizabeth and Fallon about the cruck barn. Apparently it was just after Christmas ?
DeleteAnyone else remember this conversation ?
As for Bert at the shop.
I really didn’t like his appearance in person, as opposed to his being a long term silent character, but he is certainly growing on me now. I really enjoyed his double act with Susan last night.
Perhaps he is about to become our replacement for Joe Grundy.
We didn’t hear that conversation. I guess listeners didn’t need to know about the barn till now, when it was introduced to us for the next development in the Lower Loxley and Fallon/Harrison sagas. I suppose the barn builds on the old+ Art Gallery concept as an exhibition and event space.
DeleteIf Fallon accepts the job as Creative Manager(?) then this will affect Ruth and David with their events barn, as Fallon sometimes did the catering for some of the parties held there.
DeleteAnother opening for Emma?
DeleteJust a little bit singed, a metaphor for the mariage? Jolene's money might be wasted.
ReplyDeleteWill Rex sell the boat? How can he part with it?
I thought about him selling the boat, but then also thought it could be a very nice adventure for Martha as she grows towards being an older child.
DeleteMaybe Rex could rent out his boat?
DeleteA good idea!
DeleteHannah will need somewhere to live soon..
DeleteYes, I wondered about the relative advantages/disadvantages of a long term let eg to Hannah and short term holiday lets. Dramatically the latter could bring more characters into the village.
DeleteI couldn't make out why Richard distanced himself from Carol. It seemed to be something to do with his stepfather leaving? but Carol and John stayed together until the latter's death. I used to be able to skip forward and back to rehear things but since Google altered things it isn't possible to do that now and have to relisten to the whole episode which is a nuisance.
ReplyDeleteAre you sure it’s Google Janice ?
DeleteI was under the impression that it was the BBC.
There's an article called Carol and John Tregorran written by Keri Davies on the BBC Archers pages.
DeleteWhat was being referred to is, I think, John was away on a lecture tour in America, Richard got into trouble pilfering at school, and Richard's behaviour only got improved when John returned 6 months later.
I suppose it may well have been the BBC rather than Google Mrs P. I found after the changes I couldn't alter my picture either.
DeleteThank you Miriam.
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DeleteHere we go, that didn't go down well, but they actually know each other...
ReplyDeleteI spoke too soon, they even found some common ground.
DeleteWhy is Bert so obsessed with Clive?
ReplyDeleteIt's not as if he's the eldest son, Keith is.
Bert told Susan that it was their mother Ivy(?) who brought them all up, so maybe he feels responsible that Clive turned out as he is, not having enough input from him.
DeleteOooooh noooo! Fallon and Harrison 😢
ReplyDeleteOne last marital fling though - not another pregnancy I hope!
DeleteI feel very sad that Fallon and Harrison are parting, but it was done with such grace and understanding. I think they still have deep feelings for each other but it is the baby thing coming between them and Harrison will forever blame George for the miscarriage (even though he actually saved Fallons life.)
ReplyDeleteI hope we haven't heard the last of Harrison, especially in his new role. We have a field full of hares opposite us (too many to count sometimes) and dread another gang of hare coarsers turning up as they have done in the past.
Perhaps he will find another partner more interested in parenthood - anyone suitable in the village at the moment?
As a rural police officer Harrison is supposed to stay, especially with the hare coursing so much in the news, is that why they brought him back, after the dog attack as well?
DeleteStay but where? Presumably at Woodbine to start with. Fallon is also moving on, so Jolene will be affected by both her leaving and the marriage break up.
As to a potential partner, there's Hannah who's single and childless.
I feel sorry for any future partner of Harrison. They will realise he still loves Fallon and then wonder if he just chose them because he wanted a child.
DeleteI read an interview with James Cartwight after he left Coronation Street. In it he confirmed that he was returning to The Archers for awhile before in the autumn, being on-stage in a play somewhere.
DeleteThis led me to believe that he'd be leaving Anbridge, but obviously don't know.
This would be a shame, as I'd like to hear the work of the Rural Police now and again, which for example, could easily be done in conversations over a drink in The Bull.
I’m glad Fallon and Harrison have arrived at the solution which allows her to stay true to herself and not feel under pressure to have children purely for Harrison’s sake. The instinct not to have children is a very real thing. George not only saved Fallon’s life, but unknowingly saved the life she wanted to have. (That’s assuming the foetus died as a result of George’s accident, as Harrison claims, although the medics were. unable to determine the cause.)6
ReplyDeleteIf Harrison and Fallon still love each other as proclaimed then they could try counselling be it separately and or together just to know for sure there is no way back for them because at the moment I feel only Fallon really knows the real cause and Harrison cannot bring himself to face it ie babies and the difficulty for him imo is that although he wants them he wants children to be with the woman he loves and not just anyone. Fallon felt rejected when her dad went off when she was young so that maybe why she does not want to risk having her own family. Other than that she has just never wanted a family and it was a case of the pair of them marrying without ever discussing such an important subject.
ReplyDeleteWe don’t know what the plan ahead with these two is.
DeleteIt might include counselling.
If Jolene gets to understand the ‘problem ‘ I wouldn’t be surprised at her suggesting such a way forward.
Although of course, it might confirm their decision.
My comment is notwithstanding your reasoning Lady R.
I think you have illustrated the nub of the situation.
Fallons certainty, and Harrison’s inability to counter that certainty.
Fallon has yet to tell Jolene and Kenton that she's going to work at LL.
ReplyDeleteI was just about to post the same...
DeleteI just hope Jolene + Kenton don't make a big issue about it, as it won't help Fallon at all.
IMO she made the right decision to go to Lynda's, as Lynda is empathetic and knew about Fallon's feelings.
Another opening for Emma? OrJoy who has previously worked in the Bull kitchen. She’s more competent there than at choosing partners!
DeleteDoes Joy still exist? We haven't heard from her for ages!
DeleteAnd as far as I can recall, she and Mick were pretty happy together. Or was there a major falling out I've forgotten about?
The last we heard from Joy + Mick was in January after bottlegate, when they seemed to have differing versions of NYE.
DeleteMick was one of my very strong suspects! 😆
Mmm !
ReplyDeleteWas that a red flag from Fallon, asking Chris to contact Harrison, fearing that he ‘might go into himself’ ?
Harrison might be the last person one might consider harming himself, but we never know.
Red flag or not ?
I don't think so.
DeleteTo my mind, he'll throw himself into his new job but will keep himself to himself so to avoid awkward questions and explanations.
This is the same as Fallon staying with Lynda and she can hide in the kitchen at The Bull until she leaves.
Fallon to move to Rex's boat??
My concern is that both Fallon + Harrison will isolate themselves from their friends which are joint friends, as well as each other. Not a good situation.
DeleteThat’s a possibility of course Miriam, but she was open with Chris and did tell him that they had split.
DeleteAs for the boat, not sure it’s her style.
Perhaps Elizabeth can find her some accommodation at Lower Loxely.
But does Fallon drive I wonder ?
And I suppose we must come to terms with Harrison leaving Ambridge for good at some point fairly soon.
Fallon can fall in love with Harrison’s replacement, an older man and a widower with adult children.
DeleteFallon does drive, Wayne bought her a van when she was in Dross.
Deleteand she had a camper van at one time, whether that was the same as the van, not sure, as it was a few years later + where so I believe she + Jazzer got it together. This was on a holiday
Delete...in Scotland + was only known about in an Ambridge Extra episode.
DeleteThanks for confirmation of Fallon driving
DeleteWhat an interesting episode hearing about the similarities of both couples, as to why splitting up is/was the only option.
ReplyDeleteMartha must be a very resilient young girl, as to the many places she lives + sleeps Now she's off for a sleepover with Lottie + Madison with her Dad.
I wonder if in the near future she reacts in some way, which will be wrongly attributed to FAS?
Thinking aloud only..😒
I found it to be an excellent episode.
DeleteWell done TA
Yes, hence not many comments, which normally follow when there's outrage.
DeleteLaughing out loud at Bert this evening.
DeleteThen poor Fallon, telling her mum she is giving in her notice, or trying to, while Jolene perpetually interrupts with her own agenda at every moment, pause in Fallons flow or not !
Oh Chris !
A step too far there I’m afraid.
Think Lottie might be putting on her running shoes.
Lottie is happy to remain friends with benefits being self aware that Chris is kidding himself that her wants to be with anyone other than Alice and visa versa Alice with Rex?
ReplyDeleteI think you might have something there Lady R. All these changes of partner are mixing things up a bit in Ambridge.
DeleteAs for Jolene not letting Fallon get a word in edgeways, isn't that always the case in TA? For years it has survived on half heard messages, interrupted phone calls and semi-overheard and misunderstood gossip.
Fair point AP - just seems to be more pronounced in Jolene.
DeleteYes, that is their preferred technique, to wind us up when we know what's going to happen.
DeleteVery rarely somebody manages to blurt it out before they are interrupted.
Bert's behaviour is getting out of order, he's probably doing it to be sent back home.
ReplyDeleteI was surprised Susan didn't stand up to him and turned on Christopher instead, respect for the elders taken too far. It was amusing when he was speaking his mind but now it's downright insulting.
DeleteAlso, Alice going to see Chris - it looks like they both need reassurance that they've done the right thing in moving on, but not quite able to let go, they're teasing us.
I think Susan will regret turning on Chris. My guess is that he won't allow Martha to go there, or be looked after by Susan, while Bert is staying there.
DeleteAnd I wouldn’t blame him if he did so.
DeleteParents rules about their children paramount, whether you approve of them or not.
Although often amusing, I’m still not sure that I like Bert Horrobin.
I realise that both Carol + Bert became vocal again to highlight caring for an elderly relative or person.
DeleteThat's been highlighted well, so enough us enough.
I just can't understand why this SL is still being featured so strongly.
There's so much more I'd prefer to hear - even if it is the village fete being organised and who will be doing what.
On that note, can anyone tell me exactly where the Jubilee field is?
To me it was the land between the village shop and the AM as donated by Home Farm. It seems though that it's across the AM. Any ideas anyone as I can't work it out from my map of Ambridge
Alice / Chris & Fallon / Harrison what is the matter with you all 😡 for goodness sake just sort your bl**dy selves out and get on with life. After all none of you are in your 20’s anymore well into your 40’s I imagine so just behave like mature adults because you are getting on my wick!!!!
ReplyDeleteIt is getting frustrating Lady R!
DeleteThey need to start counting their blessings.
DeleteI’m finding all the couple’s stuff fairly boring, ditto the fete charging issue, but I like the verbal wit of Bert and Carol, with Bert providing his own comic relief to the eldercare issue he is part of. As Susan pointed out, his rough bringing and lack of social and economic opportunity explains a lot......
ReplyDeleteI have to disagree.
DeleteNo matter what a person's background is, it's not an excuse for rudeness, bad manners and slovenliness, be it with family or others.
I used the word explains not excuses. Whether one thinks a poor social background excuses later behaviour or not very often depends on one’s own background. Middle class listeners who belittle Susan for trying to rise above the social background she was born into, and move into theirs, make me III. I won’t go on.
DeleteJust confirming that I’m not thinking of listeners here of course, only the sneery ones elsewhere.
DeleteAfraid I have to disagree totally with Maryellen
ReplyDeleteI have heard more than enough from disgusting old Bert and his constant demands and complaints.
As for Carol, I've been disappointed with her portrayal as an aging woman. I don't remember her being so difficult, rude and ungrateful as a young woman. She was someone I admired and enjoyed listening to, especially her connection with John Tregorran.
But I am enjoying the interplay between couples, Fallon and Harrison particularly. The fete charging issue, I couldn't care less about. We used to pay entrance fee to our village fete to cover the cost of hiring the field.
I think the issue of tickets for the fete is that, as someone said to Lynda, it's a village event for all the village, not a fund raising event for the church.
DeleteWell, that's true. I assume the use of jubilee field is free. Perhaps there should be no entrance fee but collecting boxes for those who may wish to make a donation. As you say this is a village event, not a church one.
DeleteWe have a fete in our village each summer which is specifically to raise funds for the church so people go, or dont go, according to what they support
I agree with ARCHERPHILE entirely regarding her latest post.
DeleteAlthough I still find Bert amusing though also very rude.
But i remember Carole and John Tregorran as my favourite characters decades ago, and find her, Carole, rather distasteful now.
I also find the interplay twixt Fallon and Harrison touching and reminiscent of my own situation when my husband and I took six months to separate, in our case to shield our daughters from trauma.
Equally, I appreciate the writing of the dance between Chris and Alice, each of them being careful to not hurt the other.
I applaud the writing team in respect of both these couples, in imposing upon both such adult behaviour, and in stark contrast to Bert Horrobin.
Susan said that Christopher should apologise to Bert, why? He criticised his parenting, was rude about Alice and gave Martha beer!
ReplyDeleteBert is ungrateful to both his daughters, but will hear nothing said against Clive who took his money and neglected him for days. As I said he probably feels responsible for the way he turned out as it was his wife who was left to bring up the children.
Bert's difficult childhood/background does not justify his behaviour now.
As for Carol she idolises her deceased son Richard because there was some problem there for which she feels responsible. To start with she was very dismissive towards Anna and ungrateful for all her efforts. At least they made their peace.
I still don't understand why us listeners are having to endure both Bert's + Carol's backgrounds and their children.
DeleteThere are children in Ambridge I'd much rather hear about, namely Henry, Jack, the continuing story of Keira, and what about Poppy? I can't remember the last time she got a mention.
I'm also missing Esme + Meadow Farm.
I realise that the actors are only in TA for short periods at a time, but some are just absent far too long, at the expense of Bert + Carol.
Rant Over! 🫣
You rant for me too, Miriam!
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